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The Gloaming Realm

Postby Daring Tombstone » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:52 pm

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Far from the Mushroom Kingdom lies a land where corruption is spreading. Waking with slight amnesia you find Peach laying on her death bed in what is only known as the divine realm. With her very soul lost in this strange realm, you seek the divine traveler to begin your search with hopes of saving the princess. But can she really be saved?

Welcome to the Gloaming Realm. This episode came as a result of me learning how to lunalua. This episode REQUIRES SMBX 2.0 beta 3. Don't have beta 3? Visit the link below for the forum page and official download link.
SMBX 2.0 Beta 3 - http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... hp?t=16814

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I wanted to create something different so this is the result I came up with. This episode has a world map but doesn't really feature "worlds". Don't expect a water world or desert world here.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5s0gukz278w2 ... m.rar?dl=0 87.3MB

Small Update 9/29/19
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- The level "Mystifying Stars" now has an additional checkpoint. The boss at the end was slightly redone so power-ups could be obtained more easily.
- Added a thank you note to the episode folder.
- Added a ▓▓▓▓ to th-
4/15/19 -The episode will now max out at 98% completion rather than 67% with two obtainable stars.
-Upon completing the "Stay Here" ending the world map now features a shortcut back to the true ending castle so you can see the other ending without fighting the last boss again.

Any bugs you find please let me know and I will try to fix them the best I can. Thank you so much for giving this episode a go. For anyone curious this took approximately eleven months to create. Below is some graphics packs that was used. If there was a graphic in this episode that isn't credited let me know.
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Graphics Used
-Eri7's graphic pack 2.0
-Dark Realm Tileset and Dark NPC's
-Dark World GFX Pack
-Enjl's Collection 5
-FanofSMBX v1.3
-h2643's GFX Pack - V4.2
-Horror NPCs V2
-Kokos GFX pack
-Marinas GFX Pack 2.0
-SMBX GFX PACK by Red Yoshi + supermarioman
-Witchking666' Gfx pack (Version 6.0)

I have decided to add the music used in this episode. Note that this isn't every single track used (because I couldn't remember where some of them came from or find them on the internet).
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A Boss Theme - Metroid Prime: Hive Mecha Boss Theme
another mystery dungeon track - Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon 2
Aqua Tunnel - Freedom Planet: Aqua Tunnel
Aquatic Ambience - Donkey Kong Country: Aquatic Ambience Restored (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rAjOjTGtc)
Battle - Digimon World: Lategame Battle
Castlevania1 - Super Castlevania 4: Bloody Tears
Cool Remastered Sky Tower - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue Rescue Team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlZULgXenW4)
Din's Silent Realm - The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword: Din's Silent Realm
Drums - Elder Scrolls Online: Maw of Lorkhaj
Fight the Guy, Save the Day - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity: Fighting the Bittercold
Final Phase 1 - The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword: Demise Fight Phase 1
Final Phase 2 - The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword: Demise Fight Phase 2
Forest Area - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue Rescue Team (A remastered version that I cannot find on youtube anymore)
Happy - Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze: Windmill Hills
Interlude - Donkey Kong Country 2 Diddy's Kong Quest: Forest Interlude (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhy3G7-2fcY)
Meta Crystal - Super Smash Bros: Meta Crystal
PoniWilds - Pokemon Sun/Moon: Poni Wilds
Probably Creepy - The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess: Twilight
Rebirth Island - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue Rescue Team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OguE5rDvgqg)
Speedy Time Zone - Digimon World: Speedy Time Zone
That Pokeman Music - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky: The Hidden Land
The Dark - The Coronation
The End Is Never The End - The Coronation
The Misty Trees - Digimon World: Misty Trees
Time - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky: Time Gear Theme
Track 812 - (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1vZIOIY8g)
Trees - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness/Time/Sky: Treeshroud Forest
Underworld - Terranigma: Underworld
Welcome to the East Coast Cuz It's Snow! - Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum: Route 216
World of Wool 4 - Yoshi's Woolly World: Wonderful World of Wool World 4

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Also I'd like to thank the people in the "need help with lua?" forum. They helped me understand how some of the lua scripting worked. Thanks for reading.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Eri7 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:56 pm

OH, I am going to play this and provide you with a review of it! Also nice, someone finally used some of my graphics (looking at the beach screenshot)!
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Postby Daring Tombstone » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:18 pm

Those graphics go well with the music used in that beach level. Also that level was my first time using paralax so it was fun making that one.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Kley » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:37 pm

This is awesome so far! I'm gonna keep playing this.

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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby TheNewGuy » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:54 pm

Looks much better than your first episode, if it's not an april fools joke ofc.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Cedur » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:43 pm

I'll do this and test it some time soon. Not immediately.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Enjl » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:27 am

My thoughts after playing, spoilered for people who wanna maintain the surprise:
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-Very obvious nods to the future arc of the explorers games...
-A tad TOO edgy sometimes? The badly looping beep while faceless peach talks to you is just a nuisance
-Enemy variety 0: I think I've fought enough Dry Bones, Goombas, Koopas, Spinies, Thwomps and Boos for a lifetime.
-The levels feel incredibly long with not much going on! At the first space level (with the wonky gravity) I started cheating because it was getting late and I wanted to see it through to the end, and the nauseating screen rotation section just went on forever even with sonicstooslow active.
-Fairly disappointed in the colour palette... Levels are either green or drab, with only a few exceptions.
-In the new beginning level, I kept thinking the BGO-clouds were meant by the hint.
-Couple of instances of "spot the 2k1x code" in this game, heh. I believe the final boss arena is straight-up copied from Redemption too.
-At some point during the ending I lost track of where I was in context to the whole game, since the game made me replay parts and then a new choice and then the ending still didn't happen? I rebounded shortly before the credits
-The reveal that the ending is in the past is pretty damn genius, I really like that
-Some ideas in levels were cute. The sound effects for the sewer level's yoku blocks stuck with me, and the Layer 2 was cute while it's something I dread seeing again in SMBX2.
-Slowly rotating SMB3 forest background is a great aesthetic.
-Dimentio is a meme so when he showed up, Waddle and I laughed for a minute straight. The chess pieces were cute though.
-I'm sad I couldn't fight Jirachi.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Mario_Increible » Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:21 pm

This was a very enjoyed experience, i had to download a old SMBX2 version was worth it.
The story resembles a offcial game, and it just stand out.
Problem was, final level was way too long, i needed No Clip and God Mode, and even that, it was still too bored.

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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Daring Tombstone » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:35 pm

Enjl wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:27 am
My thoughts after playing, spoilered for people who wanna maintain the surprise:
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-Very obvious nods to the future arc of the explorers games...
-A tad TOO edgy sometimes? The badly looping beep while faceless peach talks to you is just a nuisance
-Enemy variety 0: I think I've fought enough Dry Bones, Goombas, Koopas, Spinies, Thwomps and Boos for a lifetime.
-The levels feel incredibly long with not much going on! At the first space level (with the wonky gravity) I started cheating because it was getting late and I wanted to see it through to the end, and the nauseating screen rotation section just went on forever even with sonicstooslow active.
-Fairly disappointed in the colour palette... Levels are either green or drab, with only a few exceptions.
-In the new beginning level, I kept thinking the BGO-clouds were meant by the hint.
-Couple of instances of "spot the 2k1x code" in this game, heh. I believe the final boss arena is straight-up copied from Redemption too.
-At some point during the ending I lost track of where I was in context to the whole game, since the game made me replay parts and then a new choice and then the ending still didn't happen? I rebounded shortly before the credits
-The reveal that the ending is in the past is pretty damn genius, I really like that
-Some ideas in levels were cute. The sound effects for the sewer level's yoku blocks stuck with me, and the Layer 2 was cute while it's something I dread seeing again in SMBX2.
-Slowly rotating SMB3 forest background is a great aesthetic.
-Dimentio is a meme so when he showed up, Waddle and I laughed for a minute straight. The chess pieces were cute though.
-I'm sad I couldn't fight Jirachi.
Yeah 2k16 to be accurate. When I finished my last episode I gave it a run through as saw the powers of lua. I wanted to learn more about it but the thing is I've never coded or scripted anything in any language before in my life. So I taught myself but dissecting some script and throwing them in levels. You can see the result here. I've credited the episode in the script I used for it (in this case "the graveyard level"). I did learn a lot about scripting and lua because of it.

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Didn't know Dimentio was a meme I thought he was from a Mario game I've never played lol. I've also never played Redemption. I also have a problem with my levels being too long. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Enjl » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:16 am

Daring Tombstone wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:35 pm
Yeah 2k16 to be accurate. When I finished my last episode I gave it a run through as saw the powers of lua. I wanted to learn more about it but the thing is I've never coded or scripted anything in any language before in my life. So I taught myself but dissecting some script and throwing them in levels. You can see the result here. I've credited the episode in the script I used for it (in this case "the graveyard level"). I did learn a lot about scripting and lua because of it.
All good! No hard feelings at all. I'm glad you were able to learn more about scripting from this endevour.
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Didn't know Dimentio was a meme I thought he was from a Mario game I've never played lol.
Yeah he's from Super Paper Mario, but he, due to various circumstances, achieved meme status in a circle that Waddle and I are in (I screenshared the thing to him in a voice call). Looking at things in the big picture, he's a pretty decent fit for the circumstances of the game, considering Mario never really dealt much with Time Travel outside of E. Gadd.
I personally thought the twist would be that Jirachi was evil and corrupted since he didn't show up for half the game at that stage. I thought that would close the loop of the game back in on itself in a way.
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I've also never played Redemption.
Good. Keep it at that. We're remaking it from scratch at the moment due to its poor quality.
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I also have a problem with my levels being too long.
One thing I tend to impose for my levels is this set of rules:
1) One checkpoint maximum, two if there's a boss
2) a total of 4 powerup resting spots before the boss checkpoint/end (2 between checkpoints)
3) If the level gets too hard or keeping a powerup for a certain stretch gets tough, or the last midpoint was a ways away, it's time to switch things up or make a segment easier
4) The end result often comes out to something like 4 sections, each a minute or so in length, though as long as the relative time spent per half is consistent, the amount of sections can vary.
5) Autoscrollers always break this format though, and should be measured by their difficulty and time it takes to get through them if you die near the end (keep it from being frustratingly long!)
6) The final section (before the boss?) should wrap up everything the level has tried to do. Be it a gauntlet with all the ideas, an autoscroller creating a contained environment where timing is key, etc... Something that tells the player "I'm almost at the end!" rather than making them question how long it will go on.
7) Ideally, other sections also tell a story that aids the progression. You did a great job at this in the level with the wolves, where the player entered a cave section and then got trapped in the den.

Another set I sometimes try (for contests, mostly) is: One checkpoint at the start of each section, one idea introduced per section, and then they're mixed and matched until the finale section wraps it all up. This one heavily relies on 6) and 7), with 6) even bleeding outside of the FINAL final section and more stretching across all sections, with all ideas introduced getting developed further. Jorfrey and Juggle physics are the two levels that used this.

Maybe you can try out some of these for yourself sometime.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby MegaDood » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:40 am

The text boxes remind me a bit of an RPG. I like them.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby MegaDood » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:37 am

This may sound weird, but what do you need to do to progress in the target level? I can't seem to work out what to do or how to do it...
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Eri7 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:47 am

MegaDood wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:37 am
This may sound weird, but what do you need to do to progress in the target level? I can't seem to work out what to do or how to do it...
Destroy all targets and a message will pop out saying that you have to go talk to peach, then you talk to her to progress further.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby MegaDood » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:44 pm

Eri7 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:47 am
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:37 am
This may sound weird, but what do you need to do to progress in the target level? I can't seem to work out what to do or how to do it...
Destroy all targets and a message will pop out saying that you have to go talk to peach, then you talk to her to progress further.
I understand that, but the targets seem unreachable...
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Daring Tombstone » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:57 pm

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I understand that, but the targets seem unreachable...
You should begin the level automatically with a hammer brothers suit which should have no problems hitting those targets. If you don't start the level with a hammer bros suit something is very wrong.
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby MegaDood » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:17 pm

Daring Tombstone wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:57 pm
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I understand that, but the targets seem unreachable...
You should begin the level automatically with a hammer brothers suit which should have no problems hitting those targets. If you don't start the level with a hammer bros suit something is very wrong.
Ah that must be the problem. I started as Small Mario. I recently got MaGLX3, and I know that has LunaLua installed, so what would the problem be?
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Daring Tombstone » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:38 am

The API's in the script most likely try to look for stuff that would be in beta 3 but in MaGLX3 seem to be moved/missing/etc. I brought it up myself and that seems to be the problem although a lua master would definitely know if this is the case or not. Beta 3 seems to be the way to go for this particular episode right now.
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Postby MegaDood » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:26 am

Do you think this would work in Beta 4 then?
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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby thegameseum » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:46 am

MegaDood wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:17 pm
Daring Tombstone wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:57 pm
MegaDood wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:37 am
I understand that, but the targets seem unreachable...
You should begin the level automatically with a hammer brothers suit which should have no problems hitting those targets. If you don't start the level with a hammer bros suit something is very wrong.
Ah that must be the problem. I started as Small Mario. I recently got MaGLX3, and I know that has LunaLua installed, so what would the problem be?
I have the same exact problem. I also recently got MaGLX3. Now, I know literally nothing about Lua scripting, But it might be because the scripting API is slightly different, and it's looking for files that are apparently no longer supported.

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Re: The Gloaming Realm

Postby Electriking » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:31 am

thegameseum wrote:
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:17 pm
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:57 pm
You should begin the level automatically with a hammer brothers suit which should have no problems hitting those targets. If you don't start the level with a hammer bros suit something is very wrong.
Ah that must be the problem. I started as Small Mario. I recently got MaGLX3, and I know that has LunaLua installed, so what would the problem be?
I have the same exact problem. I also recently got MaGLX3. Now, I know literally nothing about Lua scripting, But it might be because the scripting API is slightly different, and it's looking for files that are apparently no longer supported.

You shouldn't use SMBX2mx3 for playing episodes since it contains bugs that may cause compatibility issues.

Although fewer compatibility issues should occur when porting the episode to beta 4, you should make a local copy of the beta 3 APIs in the episode folder to ensure that everything still works.
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