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Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:31 am
by Shadow Yoshi
If a mobile version of this site is truly a necessity for anyone, you can go the UCP and change your board style to "prosilver". There is a full mobile theme there but note that it will not look like this site and there will be no navigation links to other parts of SuperMarioBrosX.org.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:53 pm
by Bryan
Chrome on Android automatically resizes the forums to fit your screen. Note, you still might have to zoom in to see certain content.

If your display doesn't look similar to mine then your device and/or software is at fault (outdated).
Spoiler: show
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Also, here is a good IRC client to use.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:26 pm
by Aero
Bryan wrote:
Spoiler: show
ImageImageFrom my HTC, LTE
Why do mobile users insist on not charging their phones?

Joey wrote:If a mobile version of this site is truly a necessity for anyone, you can go the UCP and change your board style to "prosilver". There is a full mobile theme there but note that it will not look like this site and there will be no navigation links to other parts of SuperMarioBrosX.org.
Seems like a bit of a work around than a solution. Why not commission some people to make a mobile version of the "smbx" style?

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:39 pm
by Bryan
AeroMatter wrote: Why do mobile users insist on not charging their phones?
That wasn't necessary.
AeroMatter wrote:
Joey wrote:If a mobile version of this site is truly a necessity for anyone, you can go the UCP and change your board style to "prosilver". There is a full mobile theme there but note that it will not look like this site and there will be no navigation links to other parts of SuperMarioBrosX.org.
Seems like a bit of a work around than a solution. Why not commission some people to make a mobile version of the "smbx" style?
I understand someone could create a mobile version of the site but why? The site looks fine the way it is on mobile now. Plus, a lot of people visit the site via their PC, not their phone. It's not like the entire userbase uses phones to go on SMBX.org.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:07 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
AeroMatter wrote:Why not commission some people to make a mobile version of the "smbx" style?
It looks fine on mobile devices. Also, commissioning some people to make a mobile version of the site is not something I would do regardless for multiple reasons.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:14 pm
by SnifitGuy
Joey wrote:
AeroMatter wrote:Why not commission some people to make a mobile version of the "smbx" style?
It looks fine on mobile devices. Also, commissioning some people to make a mobile version of the site is not something I would do regardless for multiple reasons.
Is that to say that if anyone asked you for resources in order to make a mobile version on their own, you wouldn't give them the necessary resources? (I don't know much about making websites mobile friendly).

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:22 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
In the development of this site as a whole (structure/code-wise, so not including the Mario graphics, contributions to the forum/wiki, etc.), I outsource pretty much nothing. If we really needed a super-optimized mobile theme for this site, I'd make one. But we don't, so I'm not going to waste my time when there's other things I need to be doing.

So, SnifitGuy, to answer your question: if somebody asked me "hey can you give me the smbx style so I can make a mobile style for you", I'd probably say no. I don't ever give out the style to begin with ("hey can I have the smbx style so I can use it on my own forum" would be a definite no), and that would also mean they'd need a space to test what they're working on. I can't have them test it here because that would result in me giving them access to part of my filesystem, which definitely will not happen unless it's someone I really trust.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:08 am
by Aero
Forest of Illusion was able to just rip the style in the same or a similar way as you did to get it from the original forums. I don't understand your reasoning either, because site testing can be done locally rather than on your server specifically too. If people were commissioned you wouldn't waste your time, an inconvenience is removed for mobile users, and it gives the community members to contribute to improving the site.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:52 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
AeroMatter wrote:Forest of Illusion was able to just rip the style in the same or a similar way as you did to get it from the original forums.
As far as I could tell, they stole my table design (names and everything) and used it to build the blocks for their site and made a few changes to the default prosilver CSS. This was not the approach I took when building this site.

I didn't say testing had to be done on my server. I said it wouldn't be, even though they would need a place to test.

There is no inconvenience for any mobile users besides Neoflash, who is using a Kyocera Hydro Vibe which would likely not be easy or worthwhile to optimize in the first place.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:53 pm
by lighthouse64
Neoflash wrote:YouTube vids take a century to load, the list just goes on and on.
That's kinda strange... I mean even for my dsi it loaded pages with youtube vids under a minute.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:11 pm
by SnifitGuy
Joey wrote:
AeroMatter wrote:Forest of Illusion was able to just rip the style in the same or a similar way as you did to get it from the original forums.
As far as I could tell, they stole my table design (names and everything) and used it to build the blocks for their site and made a few changes to the default prosilver CSS. This was not the approach I took when building this site.
Wouldn't it be easier for them to just get the raw image from their local machine rather than ripping it off your site? Or do you mean the format of the forums?

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:19 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
I'm talking about the style of the forums (phpBB calls them "styles" and it's just how the forum looks and is structured, not the actual content of it). Styles are made of HTML and CSS, as well as some JavaScript/AJAX.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:02 pm
by SnifitGuy
Joey wrote:I'm talking about the style of the forums (phpBB calls them "styles" and it's just how the forum looks and is structured, not the actual content of it). Styles are made of HTML and CSS, as well as some JavaScript/AJAX.
Didn't you need to upload the graphics (SMB3 sizeable, star, etc.) in order to make a new style?

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:04 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
I forgot to mention that styles also contain images, yes. What exactly are you asking?

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:42 pm
by SnifitGuy
Joey wrote:I forgot to mention that styles also contain images, yes. What exactly are you asking?
When I first read your earlier comment on Forest of Illusion stealing your table, I interpreted it as "They stole images off this forum", but now I get the difference between the styles and tables. Besides, it's good to know that it's not too complicated to import your own images onto your own forum.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:45 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
They took the HTML data that represents the SMB3 blocks. That was what I was talking about.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:48 pm
by Bryan
Forest of Illusion never stole anything from this site. You don't own any Mario content nor code. In that case, everyone would patent their HTML code. FOI was going to be a direct remake of SMB.org with a whole new look. To prevent problems and because of a lack of popularity, it was shut down after we determined this was the rightful home for SMBX.

To the topic currently in discussion,

Every style has a set of images kept within a directory within the phpBB directory in the filesystem or you can be store in a different directory. The style is put together using all the elements Joey mentioned above. For example, this theme is a modified version of the 'prosilver' default theme. Joey used a combination of graphics, HTML & CSS to put it together.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:53 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
Bryan wrote:You don't own any Mario content
True.
Bryan wrote:nor code.
False. Despite the fact that I have no way of preventing people from doing what you did, you still pulled my code directly from this site.

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:57 pm
by Bryan
Joey wrote:
Bryan wrote:You don't own any Mario content
True.
Bryan wrote:nor code.
False. Despite the fact that I have no way of preventing people from doing what you did, you still pulled my code directly from this site.
Your style isn't original either. Otherwise, your graphics & code would be totally custom.

No code was directly pulled from your site. And if it was, you can be assured I took no participation in that since I never designed the style on FOI forums. I only worked on other parts of the site. Stop blaming me for something I have no responsibility over. If you are so worried about people stealing 'your' code, then maybe you should apply for a patent for the code. Be sure to let them know you are using content created by a third-party (Nintendo) too!

Do we really need to shift the topic in this direction?

Re: Optimize for mobile devices.

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:31 am
by lighthouse64
I don't really think this is about optimization for mobile devices anymore... :/