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Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:51 pm

Hello everyone, I'm back from a week long ban. Got to admit, I was in the wrong this time. I used some pretty rude words and we can't have that on a forum as respectable and well maintained as this. So Joey, you know what? I think you're right. Maybe I peeled the band aid off a bit too fast so to speak and said some things you all - "y'all" as they say - didn't want to hear, and for that I apoligise. Enough about me though, this isn't an apology thread. This thread is a compilation of things I have learned in my time away, and to help out a few people here from making the same mistakes I did. The following will be tips and tricks some may not know about that will really make this place great. Let's begin!

1. Don't report.
Settle disputes on your own. Fight your own battles. Become more direct and declarative as arguments continue, and make your posts shorter as time goes on to give less fuel to the fire. It's best to keep the disputes out in public threads so people can pass judgment, and come to your aid if you're right or correct you when you're wrong. If you happen to be in the wrong then shut up, otherwise keep going until you stop getting replies or win. It's a way to bleed issues out and put them to bed and is better than getting the mod squad involved. They've got better things to do which haven't been disclosed but I'm sure they're working hard on something productive. Do your part by talking consistently, and often. Call out flaws early, and often. PMs don't go anywhere, especially when the person you're talking to has a sense of authority over you so it's always better to keep everything open, upfront, and available for anyone to speak up rather than being hassled privately without anyone stepping up for you.

2. The Foes Button
Tired of someone constantly talking and being argumentative for the sake of being so as if they have something to prove? Remember, don't report: use the foes button. The foes button is the friend of the level headed, and the enemy of the foolish child. So when you're in a thread and see someone that refuses to listen to reason, is being purposefully dismissive, and you feel the urge to point out everything they're doing wrong and hold them accountable (a.k.a. policing/being a watchdog) simply add them to your foes list and their posts will not show up for you by default. If enough people do this, everyone wins because it leaves better posts to focus on and discuss. A cool thing about the foes button is that it allows you to open up a post anytime if you for some reason feel the need to check their opinion on a matter.

The foes button can be found on every profile page like so:
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Discord also has a block button: use it. It works exactly the same way as the foes button but with chat.

3. Strategic posting
Post when certain people go offline to let other people hear your take on something before someone else gets a word in that's probably not related or doesn't add anything to what you're saying. Also if you happen to be talking about something controversial, it lets your thread have time to be seen by people to get responses and views before it gets locked or supressed. Sometimes people like to hide and set themselves to hidden, so be careful when you see hidden users online. To be fair to those with deletion power they only delete threads on special circumstances: spam, gore, porn, level design tips, calling attention to IRC security flaws, and illegal content. Make sure to back up your posts to pastebin so you have a spare to pass around just in case. The point of a forum is to discuss things, share information, and talk about ideas: take advantage of every possible way to communicate effectively. If something is on your mind that you think might get locked, try using an appropriate stickied thread to avoid that and keep the discussion going. Now if what you're saying is too much and the mod squad drops in and tells you to stop, or starts editing/deleting your posts then don't be confrontational; take it to PM instead with everyone you were talking to just fine before being interupted. PMs are best used in those situations, or getting in specific contact with people you want to hear from such as a forum (or regular) group that goes around on here.

4. Be a better member.
People will treat you better and listen more if you're not acting like a snob. Nothing more to it than that. Believe it or not, some good friendships can come out out this place so seek that out.

5. Self moderate, don't backseat moderate.
Everything so far has been self-moderation tips but the ultimate scheme of this is to actually practice it. Don't respond to bad threads like spam; that's when you actually need to report crap. Basically post in threads like you would want to see a mod posting in threads. If you think about it Global Mods and Admins are the biggest backseat moderators on the forums because they basically say the same thing as actual backseat moderators a lot in threads just with the license to do so by privelege of the green or red name and are still just as non-constructive. Really it's like people want to tell each other what to do as if they actually have some authority and this isn't just some online forum that has no real meaning outside of its own context. Supposedly, it gives them some relief from the feeling that everything that they're doing on this website is meaningless and want some sort of credit, or badge to assign value to what they're saying. Really makes you think about how much vigor is contained in discussions about ranks, staff, what is and isn't official, etc. Like there's essentially no difference between anyone but that facade of status is put on anyway. Back to the point though, be the member that doesn't have to be moderated by a decent moderation team.

There we have it! 5 easy tips and tricks to make the SMBX experience great. Again, I've learned from my previous actions so I toned down the mean words, and upped the helpful advice. I suppose the humor moderators weren't a fan of my satire, and I guess I'll have to adjust and I hope this meets the mold. Now I do believe that blue lives matter, but really the policing has got to stop so I've taken it upon myself to share this with everyone so that maybe one day we won't have people to outline consistant failures and short comings with, and we can all have a good time here. Thank you for reading. This is backed up of course on Google Doc and Pastebin if you want to share.

I took out as many mean cuss words as I could from this post but if you're offended still, shoot me a PM and I will be more than happy to give you a speedy reply to resolve the situation. Also feel free to post any questions, comments, or your own ideas!

DISCLAIMER: SOME POINTS ARE SATIRICAL AND ARE TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY AND CALL ATTENTION TO CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE FORUM AND ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS THE SOLE OPINION OF THE AUTHOR, ANY PARTICULAR MEMBER(S), OR GROUP(S). THE COMMENTS AND WRITTEN WORDS IN THIS THREAD HAVE BEEN CLOSELY MONITORED TO FOLLOW THE FORUM RULES AND IS THUS ACCEPTABLE SUBJECT MATTER DESPITE PERSONAL OPINIONS OF A STAFF MEMBER OR MEMBERS.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:58 pm

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Danny » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:00 pm

Because we all know following by your advice and tips is really going to make a forum a better place.
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:31 pm

(ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง yeah?

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby PixelPest » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:28 pm

"I just got banned. Here's some tips you should follow"...what

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:30 pm

Trust me fella, I've got great things to say and more to come. Just you wait.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby HeroLinik » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:26 am

good topic 11/10
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Cedur » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:43 am

PixelPest wrote:"I just got banned. Here's some tips you should follow"...what
He's been originally given the 1-week ban for a topic like this which was just downright inflammatory and full of curse words, so he's trying to fix that and get a constructive message across.

Adding to what's been said above: The best way for everyone to make this forum enjoyable is to try to refrain from the following things.
  • Abuse of smileys, capitalization, exclamation marks, BBcodes (e.g. many colors or unnecessarily huge size), or extremely multiplying the same letter, general illegibility
  • very short messages (e.g. only one smiley attached to a quote), generally everything known as spam, as well as "shitposting"
  • Unnecessary swearing, too much netspeak, everything known as "noobish language"
  • Pointless cynism (e.g. in the ways of "why register on these forums" or "we never finish anything")
  • Replying to spam (as said above), and especially using a spam post as an occasion for own shitposting
  • Elitism, condescending remarks (e.g. "You know what? This level is a shit"); posting images/GIFs for the sole sake of provoking; generally all kinds of displaying airs and graces
  • Being mean and short with people, Bitching or overly whining, harassment and taunting in general.
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby WerewolfGD » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:19 am

Linik wrote:good topic 11/10

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby FireyPaperMario » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:55 am

Thanks for the tips for when you come back from being banned! ^.^')
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:32 am

Yeah no problem buddy! ^.^')

P.S. I wrote them myself. ;)


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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Valtteri » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:44 pm

Tips? I got one: If you get banned, mock the staff and post satirical essays trashing everything about the forum and expect everyone to agree with you.
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:13 pm

I'm only trying to help. You see, I was a bit hurt when you called me a demagogue behind my back and this ban really made me think about it. It was almost as bad as when you harangued that one person in the LJ forum for speaking up about hiring a new judge. It was wrong of me, and it's right there in the rules that users are not supposed to be questioning this sort of thing or going after it. I realize that now, and sincerely apologize for my actions. These tips are my way of showing a step into a more constructive path, so this community can be great.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby PixelPest » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:18 pm

Going behind people's backs, ignoring people, and settling disputes on your own instead of reporting don't seem like a constructive path to me

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:25 pm

It is is pretty constructive if you ask me. Believe me with some of your posts, I would have been perma banned a long time ago if I didn't follow those tips.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Valtteri » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:37 pm

Trying to get banned instead of just quietly leaving doesn't make you cool, just saying.
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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Aero » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:48 pm

I think you're right.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Lx Xzit » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:20 am

I gotta admit I've been doing some mistakes and I feel bad for it. I've read al your tips and they were very useful! it was enjoyable to read them.

I just would like to add something short:
If someone tells you something really offensive, it's super important calm down and take a sigh before reply. Take the time needed to do and think about it before reply, because when you reply even with a bit of rage it probably will push you to say inappropriate things or won't let you express your opinion in the accurately way you want to do. If you decided to reply, do it always in the correct way (following these tips). Read your post over a over, edit the post so many times as needed and make sure the post it's transparent and reflects everything you want to say accurately before to press that "Submit" buttom.

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Re: Revised Tips

Postby Valtteri » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:49 am

Lx Xzit wrote:I gotta admit I've been doing some mistakes and I feel bad for it. I've read al your tips and they were very useful! it was enjoyable to read them.

I just would like to add something short:
If someone tells you something really offensive, it's super important calm down and take a sigh before reply. Take the time needed to do and think about it before reply, because when you reply even with a bit of rage it probably will push you to say inappropriate things or won't let you express your opinion in the accurately way you want to do. If you decided to reply, do it always in the correct way (following these tips). Read your post over a over, edit the post so many times as needed and make sure the post it's transparent and reflects everything you want to say accurately before to press that "Submit" buttom.
Well said, DarkMecha, but this thread is satire and its purpose isn't really to teach good manners but provoke people.
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