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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Rhosty » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:52 pm

Syndrilevosse wrote: I find that a lot of age groups shit on or just shut out younger age groups quite often and treat their opinions and viewpoints as superior to anyone of a younger age group's opinions or viewpoints.
This happened to me a few months ago in the YouTube comments section on a video called, "Which dinosaurs had feathers?". I put comment saying "But what if some species of Velociraptor had no feathers? Or that the feathers scientists found on them were actually just leaves or moss?" A while after that, I was attacked by a groupie of what seemed to be older people than me, judging by their grammar and vast knowledge of dinosaurs. One of them said,"But dinosaurs have feathers and that's final." Another was blasting me with some dinosaur termaology. Yet another said,"Just because you have a dinosaur in your profile pic, doesn't make you a dinosaur expert." I really don't that person's point there, because my profile was Lemmy Koopa, not a dinosaur. And just because they found evidence, that doesn't really make them any superior to me for having an opinion on the subject. When I was twelve, I always said that, "Kids with bad grammar are stupid." and "People with weird profile pictures are hobos." Right now I try not to make of anybody who I think is like this, because, that just comes back to age superiorness, which is pretty wrong, but prevailent in society.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Mosaic » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:06 pm

The worst social problem? Well...

I'd say about 90% of things that happen in general are a problem.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Bluigi » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:43 pm

No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Rhosty » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:58 pm

Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Feminism isn't completly ridicolous, the only thing ridicolous about it are the women who bash and trash talk guys for claiming to be better than them, also known as feminazis. And I beg to differ that part about western states being a better place for both men and women. Because lets face it, this problem is widespread, there's no way it could stay in the eastern US.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Bluigi » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:53 pm

Tell me one reason why feminism is necessary in the western states.

The funny thing is that Feminazis always defend Islam and islamic states from being misogynistic and deny the rape culture that's present in states like Pakistan. On the other side they blame our western world to be sexistic, misogynistic and they are convinced that we live in a rape culture. I can't take feminism, ANY kind of feminism, serious, as long it doesn't fight against the sexism and contempt against women in islamic states or even defends it.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Metamorphizer » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:56 pm

practicalshorty014 wrote:She just plainly said "No", and I just decided to call bolagna on that one because everywhere you look in the US, people are getting shunned for their race.
True, but that's probably the case for anywhere in the world and it's not just racism, but prejudices towards others in many forms. Countries like Japan and Ireland aren't known for racism, but it's difficult to judge whether that's true because their populations are fairly homogenous, so are people in such countries more accepting or just lacking in opportunities to express prejudices?
practicalshorty014 wrote:Feminism isn't completly ridicolous, the only thing ridicolous about it are the women who bash and trash talk guys for claiming to be better than them, also known as feminazis. And I beg to differ that part about western states being a better place for both men and women. Because lets face it, this problem is widespread, there's no way it could stay in the eastern US.
I think Bluigi's referring to the "West" (Europe and European-derived nations), not the western U.S.

Though, I have wondered if the western U.S. should be its own country. I suspect a lot of the stereotypes of and problems in the U.S. are mostly based in the eastern states and drag down the western states by association (e.g. obesity in the western U.S. is MUCH lower than the eastern U.S.) Also, having separate federal governments for each half might be more manageable since there's now over 300 million people in the country. Not to mention that Washington, DC is not in any way centrally located (whether to population or states). DC would have to be in Kansas City to be central to the entire country.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby onpon4 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:43 pm

Not to mention that Washington, DC is not in any way centrally located (whether to population or states). DC would have to be in Kansas City to be central to the entire country.
Washington, D.C. is located where it is because that's where the District of Columbia is. It's in the District of Columbia so that no state has an unfair advantage by having the national capital within it.

Despite what you may have learned from Civilization, there isn't any pressing need for the capital to be located in the center of the country. Its location is roughly where the center of the U.S. originally was, though.
I suspect a lot of the stereotypes of and problems in the U.S. are mostly based in the eastern states and drag down the western states by association
It's not as simple as east and west. There are all kinds of cultural and political differences all over the place, even within states.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Rhosty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:06 am

It's not as simple as east and west. There are all kinds of cultural and political differences all over the place, even within states.
This is extremely true because I've been on trips with my family to Montana, Nevada, and California, and I've got to say, the people in every one of these states are completly differing, and political views varing from where I live.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby FireyPaperMario » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:29 am

Easy, people kept stereotyping people from Texas as rednecks! Which is not fucking true! :roll:

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:07 am

Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Legally perhaps, but societally they don't. There are engrained stereotypes and expectations of women that still very much exist today.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Rhosty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:27 am

Joey wrote:
Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Legally perhaps, but societally they don't. There are engrained stereotypes and expectations of women that still very much exist today.
It's sad. It's like we're not letting go of the terrible stereotypes of the 1900s or even older than that. I don't think society is much accepting of tomboys, trans, gay, bi, or anything like that. I can speak from experience that I'm a tomboy, and it's evident at school that people there call me a weirdo.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Kley » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:33 am

MosaicMario wrote:The worst social problem? Well...

I'd say about 90% of things that happen in general are a problem.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby underFlo » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:52 am

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ShadowStarX wrote: I can't even mention a single thing that's better in the U.S. than in the E.U.
At least the USA isn't getting flooded by terrorists while it is giving all its money away.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby onpon4 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:16 pm

I don't know about "worst"; it isn't a contest. But one social problem that doesn't see much attention in the public discourse is the social problem of proprietary software. It should be considered incredibly unusual for someone to own a machine that they don't have the right to control, but since the 1980s it has become the usual case. Even worse, this is creeping into our appliances (the so-called "Internet of Things").

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Valtteri » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:25 pm

Women have been treated unequally to men throughout history. While the most glaring injustices, such as being denied the right to vote, have been fixed over the past decades, women still get paid less (gender pay gap) and they are associated with lower paying professions. Feminism does not mean female supremacy. Feminism means the idea that women should be treated equally to men by, for example, getting rid of the gender wage gap.

It's a sad trend on the internet to trash feminism and women. It's a similar reaction to when the Black Lives Matter movement was created and folks with racist tendencies interpreted it as a movement against white people and coined "All Lives Matter" as a strike back, because they felt that giving black people equal rights is somehow taking away from white people. Similarly some people can't stand the idea that women are given equal rights and thus fight feminism.

I'm not very familiar with these "feminist extremists" but you probably shouldn't pay attention to them. They aren't the center of feminism. It is a very good cause despite its negative connotation on the internet.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Bluigi » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:46 pm

Joey wrote:
Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Legally perhaps, but societally they don't. There are engrained stereotypes and expectations of women that still very much exist today.
What about stereotypes of men? Don't they matter because it's just men? If yes, you're sexistic.

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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby DarkMatt » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:31 pm

Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Having my brother lose custody of his daughter 13-odd years ago and seeing how explicitly biased against the mother our judge was, even when, in this case, the mommy was soon afterwards proven batshit insane, I can tell you right now that, sure, it sounds like that, on paper. In reality, it's as much of a crapshoot as racial and sexual tolerance is.
onpon4 wrote:I don't know about "worst"; it isn't a contest. But one social problem that doesn't see much attention in the public discourse is the social problem of proprietary software. It should be considered incredibly unusual for someone to own a machine that they don't have the right to control, but since the 1980s it has become the usual case. Even worse, this is creeping into our appliances (the so-called "Internet of Things").
I didn't mean it as worse. I meant it as, "what should be fixed now?"

Obviously you'd start with the worst.
Syndrilevosse wrote: I find that a lot of age groups shit on or just shut out younger age groups quite often and treat their opinions and viewpoints as superior to anyone of a younger age group's opinions or viewpoints.
It's worth pointing out that it's not just restricted to age. It's actually a pretty common response to blame the problems you're experiencing on the people who was suppose to do about it before. Can't do anything about it? Blame the people who can/could/might be able to/has nothing to do with it.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby lighthouse64 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:57 pm

Kley wrote:People are too attached to social media and smart devices. People always have to update their accounts with what they're doing and rely too much on their technology. It's so sad that people will believe all of the news they read on Facebook and Twitter without actually doing research. IMO, smart phones also encourage anti-socialism.
I agree with this so much. People at my school seem like they are on snapchat all the time...

Of course, I don't have social media problems because I disable all my notifications.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby DarkMatt » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:57 pm

lighthouse64 wrote:
Kley wrote:People are too attached to social media and smart devices. People always have to update their accounts with what they're doing and rely too much on their technology. It's so sad that people will believe all of the news they read on Facebook and Twitter without actually doing research. IMO, smart phones also encourage anti-socialism.
I agree with this so much. People at my school seem like they are on snapchat all the time...

Of course, I don't have social media problems because I disable all my notifications.
My sociology teacher mentioned later down the line that the class will be forced to voluntarily go without electronics for a weekend.

I seem to be so scared by it that I haven't asked him if he was serious or not. Probably because I won't like the answer either way.
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Re: What is America's worst social problem?

Postby Danny » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:57 pm

Bluigi wrote:
Joey wrote:
Bluigi wrote:No, feminism is completely ridicolous, because men and women HAVE equal rights and claims in the western states.
Legally perhaps, but societally they don't. There are engrained stereotypes and expectations of women that still very much exist today.
What about stereotypes of men? Don't they matter because it's just men? If yes, you're sexistic.
The stereotypes for men are bad, yes, but we aren't objectified as much as women are, and there's a lot more to what feminism fights than just stereotyping. Valtteri said most of it.
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Syndrilevosse wrote: I find that a lot of age groups shit on or just shut out younger age groups quite often and treat their opinions and viewpoints as superior to anyone of a younger age group's opinions or viewpoints.
It's worth pointing out that it's not just restricted to age. It's actually a pretty common response to blame the problems you're experiencing on the people who was suppose to do about it before. Can't do anything about it? Blame the people who can/could/might be able to/has nothing to do with it.
That is a pretty valid point, I was just using the whole age group issue as an example since it does seem prominent. I really think blaming other people for your problems is a big social problem that isn't limited to the U.S., but I guess that's human nature at this point.
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