Enjl wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:03 pm
Antifa is a group of anti-rioters, aiming to migitate harm done by fascist movements across the country. Expand the term "antifa" into "anti-fascist" and you have basically every functioning citizen. Oh boy.
"What about their tendency to violence?"
There was this Portland thing a few weeks ago, which you probably heard of, where an antifa member used a hammer to attack someone in a bus. That happened at a rally of the Proud Boys
neo-fascist group that was busing themselves across the country with their weapons etc etc. So, of course, anti-protesters come to the rally to make their stance against what these people stand for. The full video of the hammer incident is rarely shared in right-wing media because it would dismantle the image, easily seen by the token tweet that people tend to respond when it's mentioned: "Where did the hammer come from?" Inside the bus. The hand of the guy who ended up getting attacked by it. Who attacked first? The fascist inside the bus, who the hammer belonged to. Bit of a theme of counter-protest, counter-violence here.
Of course, violence is ultimately desired to be avoided, and this is just a token example showing the kind of violence going down there and the ways in which the truth is twisted by right-wing media. But it paints a picture: The antifa counter-protests are not at the root of the problem, but a consequence thereof. What if the country didn't have such a tendency to fascism and white supremacy? Well, less people would get (rightfully) upset about it!
Now, to that second point....
Abortion. Tricky topic. Many perspectives. First things first: Abortion happens wayyyy before birth, so there isn't actually a baby to be killed at that stage
. It's a fetus a short while after conception. So. Why remove the fetus?
So even if you count abortion as a "killer", illegitimizing them can consequentially plummet 25+% of aborting women into unwanted situations. Noooooooot quite sure if this is really the "murder" statistic that should be pointed out. Something like "car accidents" sounds more ethically avoidable.
I actually saw the full video of the bus and it's hard to tell who had the hammer first. I also saw the full unedited video if John turano and his 24 year old daughter Bianca who looks 12ish. He is also called spartan. In the video he was pushed to the ground and violently attacked by a large crowd kicking and punching him in front of his daughter. Another video showed another man lifeless on the ground with antifa surrounding him.
If you go to Twitter Andy ngo has many videos of Antifa. They attacked him kast month and caused brain damage. He was just filming them and did nothing wrong.
13 people arrested and all were Antifa. Per live feed the right wing groups were peaceful the entire time.
Patriot prayer is a Christian group and the leader told his follows not to start any violence.
Now everyone says proud boys are neo Nazis and white supremacists but the leaders are Cuban Hispanic and recently a African American proud boy was just on CNN for an interview. They welcome all races.
They were at Portland to protest Antifa and support Trump. After Trump was elected there was a video from Chicago where 2 blacks kids pulled a man out of his car and pushed him to the ground violently kicking him and screaming "you voted for Trump".
We never started the fire. The left did the day Trump won. I know African Americans who support trump. I work with them and they say if Trump is racist then so are they.
My point is Antifa is showing up to peaceful rally and being violent and the left won't condemn them.
They should be declared a terrorist group.
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My last post did not show up so I will say this. Babies start to develop a heart beat at 3 weeks old and PP gets rich selling the body parts after it dies. Arms and legs. It's disgusting.
I don't mean to come off as rude or mean. I'm just stating my position. I don't like abortions and I don't like Antifa.
Kanye West said it best. 8 years of Obama and nothing changed in Chicago. Obama went from having 4 million dollars to 40 million after leaving the white house and his salary was not even close to that. Trump is donating his entire 4,0000 annual salary to good causes.
Also Russia was nothing but lies. Russia started meddling in 2014. Staffers warned Obama and he told them to do nothing. Hillary received millions in donation from Russia and Saudi Arabia.
Come 2016 Russia has hacked a dnc server and then tries to hack 10 polling stations and fails. A nsa analyst by the name of Reality winner blew the whistle and is sent to prison. Democrats should have seen her as a hero but don't defend her. Trump tweeted what she did (leaking evidence on Russia) was not that bad but does not pardon her.
Everyone freaks out. The dnc refuses to let the FBI investigate hacked server and instead hires crowdstrike, a foreign Intel agency owned by a Russian to investigate server. A top official in Ukraine denounces crowdstrike and later CS admitted to lying. They said lies to continue the investigation.
Then fusion GPS and their Russian lawyer make a fake dossier to try and frame Trump. It was all a bunch of lies by sore losers.
Trump won because ten million democrats who voted for Obama did not vote for Hillary and the blue collar worker force switched votes for Trump giving him Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin and almost Minnesota and new Hampshire.
In pueblo county Colorado the people were suffering jobs. A Democratic stronghold for 45 years with almost 20,000 more registered democrats with a pop of almost 2000,000 people and Trump took over 90% of the dem voters there.
He promised jobs. Hillary did not really promise much. So the blue collar worker force sided with Trump.
These are the 2 reasons he won the electoral college. Trump took over 2,500 counties to Hillary's less then 500.
Now Hillary won the popular vote. It was proven in 2 states illegals voted but I still think Hillary would have won the pop vote without them. She did good in only 2 places. The district of Columbia where Washington DC is and California with a pop of 15 million Latinos and Hispanics. Now even though Trump won over most Cuban Hispanics he only took 29% of the Latino vote thus Hillary won in California. The rural counties were Republican while the big cities were Democratic.
California does not decide our president. The electoral college was set up so all states have a voice. The election was fair and this time it looks as if Trump may take 20-30% of the African American vote thanks to many black conservatives who were democrats before 2016. 2 black pastors even called Trump the first black president.
For a Democrat to beat Trump that person has to be aggressive in the debates, offer more than just free stiff and supporting illegals and most importantly that person must have the Democratic party United but the democrats lose voters every week and Trump has over 80% support with Republicans.
Last but not least 1 of the biggest Dem super pacs who donates millions in campaign funds has already announced they won't try for Ohio, Iowa or Texas. Now all but 1 president in history has taken Ohio. So less campaigning there is a mistake for dems. Now having Republican governors in Ohio and Iowa gives us an advantage but dems are also pushing the new green deal which is seen as unpopular because it has the potential to hurt jobs in some places including Ohio.
It's a long shot for the democrats but they could still win. I can say they have no chance with Biden so they need to pick a good candidate if they want any chance and Yang is the obe I consider a good candidate.
That's my opinion plus research and facts.
I want to say thank you to God for every day he gives me on this planet and for the chance to be in a better place when I die.