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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby TLtimelord » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:30 pm

I think 'Don't Stop Believin' is a terrible and incredibly overrated song.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Danny » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:38 pm

Imaynotbehere4long wrote:My unpopular opinions: All so-called "first levels" should be banned from the normal Levels sub-forum (only posted in Casual Levels) since they're incredibly common and almost always incredibly boring. Also, people who don't properly cite their custom songs should be rebuked.
Self advertising but here is my first level. http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... =63&t=2334

If you ban all first levels from the normal Levels it put them in whatever the silly "Casual Levels" subforum is then nobody will get the criticism they need to become better at making future levels. That should be quite obvious if you were a Level Judge but I guess not.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby DannyDee » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:49 pm

TNTtimelord wrote:I think 'Don't Stop Believin' is a terrible and incredibly overrated song.
It is widely regarded as THE perfect rock anthem though.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Imaynotbehere4long » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:53 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:Self advertising but here is my first level. viewtopic.php?f=63&t=2334

If you ban all first levels from the normal Levels it put them in whatever the silly "Casual Levels" subforum is then nobody will get the criticism they need to become better at making future levels. That should be quite obvious if you were a Level Judge but I guess not.
I guess I should have been more specific, especially since you're not the first one to misinterpret my complaint: when I refer to "so-called 'first levels,'" I'm not referring to the first level someone makes; I'm referring to levels that are meant to be "the first level in a project," hence my nickname for them, and hence why they're almost always incredibly generic and boring. Sorry for the confusion.
Turtwig wrote:no wonder those are unpopular
Oho, trust me, so-called "first levels" are far from unpopular...or were you talking about my opinions?
Turtwig wrote:*ahem* really, though, why do you think these things?
I explained the first one: so-called "first levels" are just really boring to play. Plus, since they don't really do anything noteworthy, or entertaining, or non-generic, it's difficult to describe what exactly is the problem with them, and when it's your job to describe levels...it becomes an issue. In all my time as a Level Judge, I've only seen two exceptions to this.

As for the second one, it's just common courtesy to label your custom song with where it's from, similar to crediting the creator of CGFX. If I don't recognize the custom song a level uses, I'd like to know where it's from.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Bomber57 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:55 pm

Imaynotbehere4long wrote:
8bitmushroom wrote:Self advertising but here is my first level. viewtopic.php?f=63&t=2334

If you ban all first levels from the normal Levels it put them in whatever the silly "Casual Levels" subforum is then nobody will get the criticism they need to become better at making future levels. That should be quite obvious if you were a Level Judge but I guess not.
I guess I should have been more specific, especially since you're not the first one to misinterpret my complaint: when I refer to "so-called 'first levels,'" I'm not referring to the first level someone makes; I'm referring to levels that are meant to be "the first level in a project," hence my nickname for them, and hence why they're almost always boring. Sorry for the confusion.
I was confused too but now you cleared it up.

And yes, I hate them as much as you do.

They are almost always "Generic Grassland level #43532 every time and would never get a lick of attention if it weren't for the fact that they were the first levels of a project. And every time it is always a project that is never heard of again.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby JupiHornet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:35 pm

@IMNBH4L: I meant your opinions.

My unpopular opinion is that I don't think Kate Upton is hot D:
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby MarioLuigiToadAndToad » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:20 pm

Turtwig wrote:@IMNBH4L: I meant your opinions.

My unpopular opinion is that I don't think Kate Upton is hot D:
Another example is that I think Pokémon series is extremely overrated, and it's not the Anime sucks now, It's always been that way. We've all just grown up. We all can't relate to Ash and his friends like we did when we where 8-10. Now that we are like, what? 15 and older? You don't find Blues Clues or any other show on Nick Jr. or Disney Jr. fun because you GOT OLDER.

Now before Bronys like me show up and attack my OPINION, saying "MLP is for todlers, yet we like the show!" it's true. You will turn 40-50 (If it actually takes that long, wtf?) and realize that Pokemon and My Little Pony isn't fun/cool anymore. I still like the GAME Pokémon, I just don't enjoy it as much as I used to.

And once I turn 20, I'll probably hate the living crap out of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Season 5 looks to be HORRIBLE, and to be honest, the older episodes are starting to look the same way, too.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby StrikeForcer » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:14 pm

Gaming
-I believe that games need to studied by academia more to strengthen the argument that games are a form of expression.
-ROM-Hacks can be better than official games when great care is taken on all core design aspects.
-GamerGate while a good movement for political reforms of media outlets that specialize in game coverage, should not have attacked academia who wanted to give games serious treatment as an art form to be studied.
-People who say that people who create a level are the master of the level are poisoning the well in game design analysis discussions.
-People have the right to play games whatever they like and however they like.
-Games have objective criteria that make them good or bad.
-Art is not purely in the realm of subjectivity.

Cultural/Behavioral/Societal
-Not everyone has the right to express an opinion, especially opinions that are slanderous.
-Echochambers lead to repetitive rhetoric and make the conversation take a dark turn.
-Critics are spoilers, but that comes with the job of reviewing art forms, so don't blame them that they spoiled your enjoyment. Sorry Ebert, but critics can play spoiler.
-Every critic should separate creator from creation when commenting on someone's work.
-Islam is not a religion of peace.
-Moderators do not have the right to censor someone's argument.
-Imposed restriction mechanisms, whether digital or analog, ought to be illegal.
-There is no such thing as a Gender Pay Gap.
-Patriarchy doesn't exist.
-Women have a clearer advantage in society because feminism gives them ammunition, for the detriment of everyone else who oppose them.
-Society today is objectively worse because of easier access to pulpits by those who would want to indoctrinate myths as reality.
-Sarcasm is not the lowest form of wit.
-Cyberbullying does not exist because it is too political to mean anything.
-As repulsive as you may find it, but Child Porn is a form of artistic expression. There is a reason why parts of a certain federal law was struck because of overly-broad wording.
-"Hate speech" has a place in civil conversation.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby TLtimelord » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:15 pm

DannyDee wrote:
TNTtimelord wrote:I think 'Don't Stop Believin' is a terrible and incredibly overrated song.
It is widely regarded as THE perfect rock anthem though.
It's overplayed, overloved, and overall overrated. While there are a few Journey songs I like (Open Arms, Seperate Ways, Wheel in the Sky), I for the most part cannot stand the lead singer's high and screechy voice.

To me, it's more of a pop song than it is a rock anthem. 'We Will Rock You' and 'We Are The Champions' are the best rock anthems!
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Aero » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:40 am

StrikeForcer wrote: -Not everyone has the right to express an opinion, especially opinions that are slanderous.
-Echochambers lead to repetitive rhetoric and make the conversation take a dark turn.
-Moderators do not have the right to censor someone's argument.
-"Hate speech" has a place in civil conversation.
How do these go together?
StrikeForcer wrote: -There is no such thing as a Gender Pay Gap.
-Patriarchy doesn't exist.
-Women have a clearer advantage in society because feminism gives them ammunition, for the detriment of everyone else who oppose them.
These are facts, not opinions. There's plenty of studies explaining the different choices men and women make that influence their wages, and patriarchy/sexism has nothing to do with them. It's mostly to do with what degrees men and women ar egetting, the amount of time men and women work, women being less likely to negotiate their wage. Check this video with sources in the comments for a more detailed and informed analysis:


StrikeForcer wrote: -As repulsive as you may find it, but Child Porn is a form of artistic expression. There is a reason why parts of a certain federal law was struck because of overly-broad wording.
The thing about CP isn't just that it's repulsive, it has to do with abuse and the inability for the child to consent. Loli on the other hand I find to be okay since no actual child is harmed or made a victim. I guess with that I'll start my own list...

1. Loli is okay as long as you don't shove it down everyone's throat.
2. The rich are taxed too much.
3. Classical art is objectively better than contemporary art, and that contemporary art should not be displayed in any respected institution.
4. Eastern culture is at a stand-still with trying to prevent westernization rather than advancing, and western culture is degenerating.
5. Fat shaming isn't a bad thing, unless the person is trying to lose weight and lead a healthier life.
6. The death of a human being isn't always an automatic tragedy.
7. Most of society's ills can be blamed on Cultural Marxists collectively, and a lack of blame inward individually.
8. Equality isn't always a good thing.
9. The Holocaust, while real, was exaggerated by survivors and individuals with a Zionist agenda.
10. Malcolm X crippled the American civil rights movement.
11. It wouldn't be a tragedy if Black Friday shoppers or Spring Breakers just vanished into thin air, or perhaps that would be a good thing.
12. A lack of belief in a God or gods can not be fully justified with a naturalistic explanation of existence since our reasoning, senses, and instincts would be based on survival rather than objective truths.
13. If it feels good, it is good. If it feels pleasurable, it is not.
14. Ends can justify means.
15. Millennials are the most depraved generation so far in Modern America next to Baby Boomers.
16. The minimum wage should be dramatically reduced, or removed.
17. Child labor should be allowed if the kid is at least 13 and have their parents' consent.
18. Perceptibly harmless technology has already stunted the next generation's mental capacity, and should no-longer be developed for young children.
19. Your favorite band sucks.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Danny » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:51 am

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby lighthouse64 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:17 am

Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

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lighthouse64 wrote:Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
That's because the entire staff team is too damn trigger happy. This thread is a perfect example of that.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Aero » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:39 am

lighthouse64 wrote:Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
It can be easily said that people need to stop making threads that will get locked. Also this kind of a popular opinion tbh.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby TLtimelord » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:42 am

8bitmushroom wrote:
lighthouse64 wrote:Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
That's because the entire staff team is too damn trigger happy. This thread is a perfect example of that.
'The entire staff team' is a broad statement. Chances are there's a decent reason behind most of the locked threads to begin with.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby MarioLuigiToadAndToad » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:46 am

lighthouse64 wrote:Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
I agree, but if thats how this forum works, and if thats how the Moderators choose to react, then they can.
They own the forum, they can lock whatever they want. You want to some how convince the owner that you would like to own this forum and have none of the threads locked? Prepare for a massive shit storm of shitty topics ran by 12 year old weirdos.
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lighthouse64 wrote:Unpopular opinion. This forum has wayyyyy to many locked threads.
That's because the entire staff team is too damn trigger happy. This thread is a perfect example of that.
'The entire staff team' is a broad statement. Chances are there's a decent reason behind most of the locked threads to begin with.
Exactly my point.


I see alot of personal views, Which I expected. So here is some of mine..

1. Porn is ok to be addicted to, but defentaly not to the point when you see a girl on Disney and want to fuck it.

2. Equal rights is something I am ok with. I beleive that Gay Marige should be legal in all contries, becuase love is love.

3. Im a Christian who doesn't follow most of what the Bible tells me what to do, because really, The Bible is kind of a judgmental little book thb imo.

4. Furrys and otherkins should be see medical help, and people should stop letting them think that they're amother species/non-exestining species. Because lets be honest, these people saying that they are not humans sound crazy. Even looking through an Atheists point of view, and a creationists point of view, you still look a bit touched it the head.

5. A company that says that they support equal rights is really stupid. Thanks for not hating a person with a sexual preference? Eh.

6. Feminists can be very...loud? I guess. But If it wasn't for feminists, would girls have the rights they do now?
I support the equal rights between both genders, and transgenders. But could you guys keep quiet? Maybe people
like us think you are annoying because you are. YES, women should have equal rights from us males. I support that act. But come on, tell us something we don't know already.

And you anti-femenists, you guys need to chill a bit, too. Hatred solved nothing, and neither do "Femenazis". (Women that try to be the more domanite gender, when fact is, there is none. We. Are. All. E Q U E A L.)


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7. YouTube is not a job, and if you are making monney off of it, it should be used as way to make extra money if the job you have at the moment isnt exactly making you enough money a week.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby DannyDee » Thu Apr 30, 2015 9:01 am

The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from.

Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. At such a time, rock critics will study their rock history and understand which artists accomplished which musical feat, and which simply exploited it commercially.

Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles.

Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for good reason. They could never figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). That phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Four'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of entire operas such as "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia"; not to mention the far greater British musicians who followed them in subsequent decades or the US musicians themselves who initially spearheaded what the Beatles merely later repackaged to the masses.

The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. If somebody had not invented "Beatlemania" in 1963, you would not have wasted five minutes of your time reading these pages about such a trivial band.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby Danny » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:00 pm

DannyDee wrote:Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles.
While I can somewhat agree that the Beatles were a little overrated, their music was still great regardless. Also I'm not entirely sure what the hell you're going on about here because before the Beatles it was all the same. Rock and Roll was never insanely heavy, it was blues, jazz, gospel, pretty calm music. The Beatles didn't really change much of anything, they were just big. If you really want to look at a band that may have "changed" anything, look at The Crickets. Even then, The Crickets were good.

I can see why your opinion is unpopular, it's full of holes and fallacies.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby DannyDee » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:17 pm

That clearly flew right over your head, didn't it?

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Re: Unpopular Opinions/Free Speech Topic

Postby lighthouse64 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:33 pm

Here's another unpopular opinion. (Well at least around here, and no I don't want to revive that topic) Evolution is fake gibberish.
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