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Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:38 am
by Shadow Yoshi
But that doesn't change whether or not Nintendo likes what the people are doing.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:34 pm
by Artemis008
I think if Nintendo doesn't end these fan projects they can get a better view on what people want instead of throwing another New Super Mario Bros. at us, which is what they will most likely do.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:49 pm
by Mable
Artemis008 wrote:I think if Nintendo doesn't end these fan projects they can get a better view on what people want instead of throwing another New Super Mario Bros. at us, which is what they will most likely do.
Why would Nintendo get a better view what people want if they end those fan projects?
There are amazing fanmade games like newer and i am sure nintendo heard atkeast about some of them.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:59 pm
by Artemis008
Right now, I would do anything to get something other then New Super Mario Bros.3, except hotel Mario 2, but you get the point right?
New Super Mario Bros was New ,NSMB2,NSMBW,and NSMBU changed almost NOTHING and they were not new.
Now look at the original 4 ,SMB1,SMB2,SMB3 and SMW all changed almost everything except the general concept,except 2 which changed EVERYTHING from the way you kill enemies to the way you pick up a mushroom.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:19 pm
by JupiHornet
I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't like someone playing their games at high speed. How does that make the game look bad? I'd be impressed if someone could beat my game that quickly.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:29 pm
by Artemis008
Turtwig wrote:I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't like someone playing their games at high speed. How does that make the game look bad? I'd be impressed if someone could beat my game that quickly.
Good point, although its probably so people don't realize how easy their games have gotten.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:41 pm
by SnifitGuy
Nintendo's logic:
>"Let's make a game"
>>Makes game
>>>Game makes good money
>>>>Said game is forgotten over time
>>>>>Nintendo makes no money off of that game anymore
>>>>>>"Let's attack people who do not infringe on our profit"

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:02 pm
by underFlo
So why is everyone saying "hurr durr Nintendo is dumb they'll only lose money" when they're paying people to make these decisions and those people are almost certainly more qualified than them?

I mean yeah, it's really not a choice I support, but they had a reason to do that.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:07 pm
by Artemis008
Why do they even care for ROM hacks? Most of their games (Pokémon) are targeted toward 8-10 year olds who don't even know ROM hacking is an actual thing or cant figure out how to get them to work.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 4:58 pm
by Mable
Rom-Hacking is only cool if the rom itself doesn't suck monkey ass.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:15 pm
by Chip Potato
Artemis008 wrote:its probably so people don't realize how easy their games have gotten.
I don't think Nintendo's goal is to make the hardest games out there. I mean their target audience is kids, you know.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:30 pm
by JupiHornet
Artemis008 wrote:Why do they even care for ROM hacks? Most of their games (Pokémon) are targeted toward 8-10 year olds who don't even know ROM hacking is an actual thing or cant figure out how to get them to work.
actually i've known how to use roms/romhack since I was 9 xd

But yeah, I can understand why Nintendo would be mad about, say, hacks of Wii games (they're still available on the e-Shop) but NES games that are over 30 years old? Why not allow those?

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:55 pm
by HenryRichard
Turtwig wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:Why do they even care for ROM hacks? Most of their games (Pokémon) are targeted toward 8-10 year olds who don't even know ROM hacking is an actual thing or cant figure out how to get them to work.
actually i've known how to use roms/romhack since I was 9 xd

But yeah, I can understand why Nintendo would be mad about, say, hacks of Wii games (they're still available on the e-Shop) but NES games that are over 30 years old? Why not allow those?
I actually have the exact opposite opinion - I have no idea how you would get a NES rom without going online and downloading it online (plus you can buy those on the e-shop too), but I see no problem with Wii hacks seeing as it's easy to get the rom without downloading it online and play it on an actual wii.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:05 pm
by JupiHornet
HenryRichard wrote:
Turtwig wrote:
Artemis008 wrote:Why do they even care for ROM hacks? Most of their games (Pokémon) are targeted toward 8-10 year olds who don't even know ROM hacking is an actual thing or cant figure out how to get them to work.
actually i've known how to use roms/romhack since I was 9 xd

But yeah, I can understand why Nintendo would be mad about, say, hacks of Wii games (they're still available on the e-Shop) but NES games that are over 30 years old? Why not allow those?
I actually have the exact opposite opinion - I have no idea how you would get a NES rom without going online and downloading it online (plus you can buy those on the e-shop too), but I see no problem with Wii hacks seeing as it's easy to get the rom without downloading it online and play it on an actual wii.
Apparently it's possible to dump the ROM off of an actual NES cartridge and put it into a computer, but who even does that :V

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:21 pm
by Axiom
http://hackaday.com/2009/06/19/usb-read ... ame-carts/

things like this exist

not saying the average person who does this but that's what an avid pirate would do and share with other people

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:31 pm
by Artemis008
I dont even think you would be able to get these as roms if this or something similar didn't exist.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:48 pm
by Exiled Bowser
Maybe its about time we all find an alternative to youtube?

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:56 pm
by Mable
Exiled Bowser wrote:Maybe its about time we all find an alternative to youtube?
Sry i though Youtube was there to watch stuff no matter what it is.

I rather watch a rom-hack then someone who makes horrible videos.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:19 pm
by Exiled Bowser
Tinkerbell wrote:
Exiled Bowser wrote:Maybe its about time we all find an alternative to youtube?
Sry i though Youtube was there to watch stuff no matter what it is.

I rather watch a rom-hack then someone who makes horrible videos.
I'm sorry? Was that an affront to my channel (I'm sure I can be found on youtube easily as I use the same name there) with nothing save a vid of me wanting to put stuff up for my channel in the future and a video with a music file trying to figure out what game (if it did) it came from?

I didn't ask for your input on that. I'm merely saying there may be a place where we can put all our stuff in peace without the Big N starting shit with us.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:40 am
by Mable
I know you didn't ask me but ahem #freespech? Everyone is free to say their opinions.

Also when did i ever say anything about ur channel.