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Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:25 pm
by XerX
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-s-c ... 0152.phtml
Speedrunner PangaeaPanga was the creator of the popular “Hardest Super Mario World Level Ever” video, which had amassed over a million views while it was up. He also regularly uploaded speedruns, many of which were tool-assisted and so required the use of a ROM and emulator to play. In his own words, his entire channel has been “wrecked” by Nintendo, which has taken down multiple videos of his.

Nintendo also sent PangaeaPanga an email, explaining that it believes it owns the exclusive rights to playing its games in a public space like YouTube:

We wish to inform you that the videos in question infringe Nintendo's copyrights. As the owner of the copyright in the games: Mario Kart 8, Super Mario World, and Pokémon, Nintendo has the exclusive right to perform the games publicly or to make derivative works based on the games. By making a derivative work using Nintendo's IP, and then displaying Nintendo's IP on your YouTube channel, you have violated Nintendo's exclusive rights.

Nintendo understands that its fans are the reason for its success, and we are always happy to see people share their passion for Nintendo's games. At the same time, Nintendo's intellectual property constitutes its most valuable assets, and the unauthorized use of these assets jeopardizes Nintendo's rights. Because of this, we ask that you please remove the video in question from your channel, and confirm that you will not post any videos using unauthorized software or copies of games, distribute or continue work on the modification, or take any other steps that would infringe Nintendo's rights.

Nintendo encourages fan engagement on YouTube through the Nintendo Creators Program. Under the program, participants are granted a license to use Nintendo’s characters, games, and other intellectual property, subject to the Code of Conduct included with the agreement. However, please note that this Code of Conduct prohibits you, among other things, from posting any content using unauthorized software or copies of games. This includes videos featuring tool-assisted speedruns, which require making a copy of a game's ROM file, and running the copied ROM through an emulator. If you are interested in learning more about the Nintendo Creators Program, please see: https://r.ncp.nintendo.net/

Thank you for your understanding.

Sincerely,

Nintendo Anti-Piracy Team
Thanks to Youtube's obscure rights policy, Nintendo has decided to take it upon themselves to start taking down any Youtube video that "may contain pirated or misused IP's" (which is like, most of them.) What are your thoughts on this?

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:31 pm
by Vinyl Scratch
Rest In Peace every single TAS video ever made and over half of the entire speedrunning community

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:42 pm
by h2643
I know that they're big money whores, but I think this is just way too much. Like what's the point in taking down their videos for no reason at all. You (Nintendo) don't get any money for that, you just take their videos because you don't wany anyone to look at them? I don't see any other 'legit' reason behind this.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:43 pm
by FanofSMBX
I'd say how ridiculous "performing a video game" is, but I have to go practice an hour of Crash Bandicoot before my Playstation lessons tomorrow.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:46 pm
by Darkonius Mavakar
Rip speedruns

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:49 pm
by Aero
I'd say just take away their monetization ability on YT and then call it free advertising, and for future videos just require an in-video segment at the beginning and end of the video advertising Nintendo. Tbh they should crack on the piracy sites distributing the ROMs, and emulators since there's no legal gray area there and nobody but pirates would mind.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:04 pm
by JupiHornet
It's gonna be SMBX all over again ;A;

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:51 pm
by HenryRichard
I honestly fail to see how you could make any sizable sum of money by doing this.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:55 pm
by Zeldamaster12
I've gotten copyright notices on my videos from Nintendo. However they said they wouldn't take my videos down, but ads might appear on them. Why don't they do that instead of being selfish as hell?

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:00 pm
by Mosaic
Zeldamaster12 wrote:I've gotten copyright notices on my videos from Nintendo. However they said they wouldn't take my videos down, but ads might appear on them. Why don't they do that instead of being selfish as hell?
IKR Same thing with them shuting down SMBX.
They should have hired Redigit instead of making him remove all
SMBX related-content!

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:14 pm
by Zeldamaster12
SuperMario12345 wrote:
Zeldamaster12 wrote:I've gotten copyright notices on my videos from Nintendo. However they said they wouldn't take my videos down, but ads might appear on them. Why don't they do that instead of being selfish as hell?
IKR Same thing with them shuting down SMBX.
They should have hired Redigit instead of making him remove all
SMBX related-content!
Yeah and so should the thousands of others who have also made Mario fangames.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:34 pm
by Axiom
Azuritereaction got hit too. It really sucks and is probably one of the dumbest things to ever happen to YouTube

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:21 am
by Pseudo
This is such massive bullshit, it's not even helping Nintendo in the long run. I understand that they have to protect their copyrights or whatever but this is just stupid.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:43 am
by Ecruteak
Is this talking about anything using uncredited Nintendo characters? Because I have a (highly-unfinished) Link's Awakening playthrough that I've been doing, but in every video, I've credited Nintendo.

Even though I shouldn't be worried, since my channel is far from being almost popular. But I'm still a little worried.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:28 am
by Xes Lana
Might be because of Super Mario Maker is being released; I wouldn't be surprised if they seen romhacking and the whole community as a threat to that games success. SMM vs LM/SMBX/etc -- Or more accurately than success would be, "This could save us $2,000 so let's take 'em down"... IDK it's the only way I can make any *semi* logical sense from their decisions.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:12 am
by reghrhre
Not Good stuff

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:13 am
by Zonnepoes
This is really one of the worst things Nintendo has done to the fans. Why taking them down? They are meant to entertain the viewer and learn them to do cool stuff too. If they do one more stupid move, i promise i will get rid of my Nintendo stuff.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:22 am
by underFlo
Zonnepoes wrote:This is really one of the worst things Nintendo has done to the fans. Why taking them down? They are meant to entertain the viewer and learn them to do cool stuff too. If they do one more stupid move, i promise i will get rid of my Nintendo stuff.
You getting rid of your Nintendo stuff won't help anybody.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:24 am
by Zonnepoes
Spinda wrote:
Zonnepoes wrote:This is really one of the worst things Nintendo has done to the fans. Why taking them down? They are meant to entertain the viewer and learn them to do cool stuff too. If they do one more stupid move, i promise i will get rid of my Nintendo stuff.
You getting rid of your Nintendo stuff won't help anybody.
I know, but i don't like it anymore when they do those stupid things to us.

Re: Nintendo "Cracking Down" on Speedrunners and Rom-Hacks

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:00 am
by FanofSMBX
Zonnepoes wrote:This is really one of the worst things Nintendo has done to the fans. Why taking them down? They are meant to entertain the viewer and learn them to do cool stuff too. If they do one more stupid move, i promise i will get rid of my Nintendo stuff.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UEGVGqJEeCo