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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby mechamind » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:40 pm

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Mega Man 3 (Unbalanced and unfinished with the Doc Robot stages being frustrating filler levels)
Not really. I consider Mega Man 3 to be the best of the NES Mega Man titles. The Doc Robots were different for the series, but those stages were still very playable.

I can see why someone would consider it the most difficult (except when compared to the first game), but just because it's hard doesn't make it bad.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby UlticraftMTT » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:58 pm

mechamind wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:40 pm
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Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:21 pm
Mega Man 3 (Unbalanced and unfinished with the Doc Robot stages being frustrating filler levels)
Not really. I consider Mega Man 3 to be the best of the NES Mega Man titles. The Doc Robots were different for the series, but those stages were still very playable.

I can see why someone would consider it the most difficult (except when compared to the first game), but just because it's hard doesn't make it bad.
It's not the difficulty i have a problem with in Mega Man 3, its level design is incredibly rushed and it has a lot of lag issues. There is so much cut content in the game it's unbelievable. Not to mention a lot of the weapons are hot garbage.

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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:42 am

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There is so much cut content in the game it's unbelievable.
Can you tell us some of the Mega Man III "cut content" to us?
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby Murphmario » Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:59 am

UlticraftMTT wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:58 pm
mechamind wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:40 pm
UlticraftMTT wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:21 pm
Mega Man 3 (Unbalanced and unfinished with the Doc Robot stages being frustrating filler levels)
Not really. I consider Mega Man 3 to be the best of the NES Mega Man titles. The Doc Robots were different for the series, but those stages were still very playable.

I can see why someone would consider it the most difficult (except when compared to the first game), but just because it's hard doesn't make it bad.
It's not the difficulty i have a problem with in Mega Man 3, its level design is incredibly rushed and it has a lot of lag issues. There is so much cut content in the game it's unbelievable. Not to mention a lot of the weapons are hot garbage.
Hey, at least 3 has better weapons than 5.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby DiamondDude » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:39 am

I think that would have to go to...
Majong on AtGames' Sega Genesis Classic.
...for obvious reasons.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:49 am

Just when no one in the SMBX community thinks there's no bad official Sonic the Hedgehog games during the early 90's. Firey decided to drop the bomb on y'all saying that this Sonic game is like Sonic 06, 14 years BEFORE the infamous bad Sonic game was released:



This Sonic game was so bad, it never left Japan, and now lives on as a "Kusoge" video game arcade!
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby DiamondDude » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:14 pm

*insert something about Mighty and Ray being in Mania Plus here*
Besides, it is an arcade game, it was designed to eat quarters.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Sat Jan 11, 2020 2:58 pm

DiamondDude wrote:
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Besides, it is an arcade game, it was designed to eat quarters.
Well duh! And you wonder why this arcade game never left Japan
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby DiamondDude » Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:01 pm

Because it was so hard?
Sounds like Lost Levels Syndrome to me.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby UlticraftMTT » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:21 pm

FireyPaperMario wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:42 am
UlticraftMTT wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:58 pm
There is so much cut content in the game it's unbelievable.
Can you tell us some of the Mega Man III "cut content" to us?
There's a lot of missing graphics, some animations don't show up because of programming errors, Rush Marine was supposed to have an attack animation, Gemini Man's parallax star background was supposed to have planets in it, and many more things, some songs don't even play al the way through.
Murphmario wrote: Hey, at least 3 has better weapons than 5.
Mega Man 5's weapons were decent in concept but had balancing issues.

Mega Man 3's weapons were:

Top Spin: Good in concept, ruined by rushed programming
Search Snake: Actually good wall and floor crawling weapon
Magnet Missile: Actually good homing weapon but uses too much energy
Gemini Laser: Bouncing laggy buster clone
Needle Cannon: Buster clone
Hard Knuckle: Slightly controllable buster clone
Shadow Blade: Metal Blade but nerfed too much
Spark Shock: The worst weapon imaginable

Only 2 good weapons in the entire game IMO

I just don't like Mega Man 3 at all. i can see why others like it, i'm just stating why i don't

I do have positive things to say about MM3 too, it introduced Proto Man and Rush, important characters to the series, and Gemini Man is one of my favorite robot masters.

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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:09 pm

UlticraftMTT wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:21 pm
Only 2 good weapons in the entire game IMO
Seems like what you described about Mega Man III makes sense! I can understand why
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby mechamind » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:54 pm

UlticraftMTT wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:21 pm
Mega Man 3's weapons were:

Top Spin: Good in concept, ruined by rushed programming
Search Snake: Actually good wall and floor crawling weapon

Magnet Missile: Actually good homing weapon but uses too much energy
Gemini Laser: Bouncing laggy buster clone
Needle Cannon: Buster clone
Hard Knuckle: Slightly controllable buster clone
Shadow Blade: Metal Blade but nerfed too much

Spark Shock: The worst weapon imaginable

Only 2 good weapons in the entire game IMO
Top Spin is actually a lot better than one might think. As long as it's an enemy that can only hurt Mega Man by coming close to him, the Top Spin is usually an energy efficient attack, and it can also be used as a defense.
Needle Cannon is a rapid-fire weapon, so it can be a lot more reliable than the Mega Buster, and it's also an energy efficient attack.
Hard Knuckle is way too powerful to be a simple clone, and as mentioned, it is controllable.
Shadow Blade may not be as reliable as Metal Blade, but it's still pretty good when close to an enemy. And it's a "boomerang" weapon, so it can also hit enemies just behind you, which Metal Blade can't.

On the other hand, Search Snake is actually one of the weapons I don't like. A lot of enemies are going to be floating, and Search Snake can only attack those on the ground (but then again, it can also hit enemies just below you if you're on the edge of a platform).

Overall, though, I like Mega Man 3's weapon selection.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby Saltlord » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:36 am

Mega Man 3's weapon balance isn't even that bad compared to other games in the franchise.
The previous game suffered from a lot of the same issues, considering that the only two consistently viable weapons are the Quick Boomerang and Metal Blade, the latter of which is so powerful, in fact, that it makes all other weapons completely obsolete.

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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby mechamind » Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:27 am

The bigger problem with Mega Man 3 is that there are a number of spots where you might get stuck with no way to die, and have to reset the game, all because you ran out of Rush Coil or Rush Jet:

* Doc Robot (Spark Man) - The ladder in the beginning is removed, and you might die before reaching the halfway point. There's an enemy robot that can run into you, unless you destroy it.
* Doc Robot (Gemini Man) - The same risk after passing the halfway point, and there's no enemy robot to attack you.
* Wily Castle 1 is unlikely to do it, but if you use up all your Rush energy while jumping around for the extra life at the beginning, you're stuck with no way to die.
* Wily Castle 3 is the most likely spot for this to happen, because your weapon energy doesn't refill between stages. You can get shot from above by an enemy robot, unless you destroy it with a special weapon.
(At the time of post, the MMKB Wiki says that you can get stuck in Needle Man's Doc Robot stage, which is incorrect. You can still fall into a bottomless pit, get a Game Over, and return to the stage select. You can't do that in the stages above.)

However, Mega Man 3 is still more innocent than the Final Fantasy series. At least in the early Mega Man games, you're not going to save a game with very low HP and MP remaining and have to start from scratch.
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby Nichijou Critic » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:21 pm

Hong Kong 97, that game is supposed to be a joke...
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:44 pm

Would any otakus in this community be more pissed off than the angry birds at me if I say Jump Force*?

*In my defense, it's pretty shameless as a crossover fighting game approved by Shounen Jump. Not as epic as let's just say, Super Smash Bros. imo
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby Yave Yu » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:06 pm

Rockman EXE 4.5
OK, it have a cool idea, you are the operator of your Navi, but the worst thing is battle control, why god damn Capcom changed its control from MMBN series!?
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby hEllO tHerE » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:48 am

Did anyone talk about:
Sonic 1 on the Game Boy Advance: Horrible screen crunch and horrible music
Sonic Riders: (Kinect version (is that how you say it?)) It controls like ass
Sonic Boom: The infinite Knuckles jump glitch, do I need to say more?
Plumbers Don't Wear Ties: Barely any gameplay, bland, it's more like a movie, heck, it isn't even a movie, it's a FREAKING SLIDESHOW!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby FireyPaperMario » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:49 am

hEllO tHerE wrote:
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Did anyone talk about:
Sonic 1 on the Game Boy Advance: Horrible screen crunch and horrible music
Do you mean Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis on the Gameboy Advance? And if I were you, I'd play the 3DS or SEGA AGES ports of Sonic 1. They're more playable!
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Re: Worst games ever made

Postby hEllO tHerE » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:00 am

yeah, that one.
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