SMBX Speedrunning General[Subzero Heroes - Level 2 by Eclipsed Level 1,3-7 by cato]

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:23 am

cato wrote: Ping
Good job on the two runs you did yesterday. The usage of the Water Hat was phenomenal.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby cato » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:18 pm

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Note: These runs are very beatable and are more of videos outlining preliminary strategies that I came up with each level.
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:43 pm
Entralia Tunnel in 57:215 by Eclipsed - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/733555547
Entralia Tunnel in 49:323 by Cato - https://youtu.be/9T0DLrA9R_A
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:43 pm
Snowcone Desert Factory in 1:02:461 by Eclipsed - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/733555542
Snowcone Desert Factory in 50:430 by Cato - https://youtu.be/QhqUuMDKTpA
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Prototype District in 54:230 by Eclipsed - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/733555544
Prototype District in 49:507 by Cato - https://youtu.be/sn1leKB__kc
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Thunder Alley in 1:37:800 by Eclipsed - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/733555546
Thunder Alley in 1:29:000 by Cato - https://youtu.be/VP2AAiV_wVs

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:38 am

cato wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:45 am

Very beatable. I can't believe how perfect my run is.
Squishy Squal Unite in 51.492 by Cato
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I'm not so sure about that 50.600


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Prototype District in 49:507 by Cato - https://youtu.be/sn1leKB__kc
DIET GRAVEL
Prototype District in 46.646 by Eclipsed


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Entralia Tunnel in 49:323 by Cato - https://youtu.be/9T0DLrA9R_A

Entralia Tunnel in 47.923
I refuse to believe that Mortimier's Gun was actually useful in this level. This run is probably the easiest of my 3 newest ones to beat.


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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[Subzero Heroes - Level 1,2,5 by Eclipsed, Levels 3,4,6 by cato]

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:32 pm

Well, in the terms of levels, it looks like you two are half and half. If my Snowcone Desert time was valid (i.e. able to be recorded without lag), I would have taken the time... anyway, it is shocking the progress.
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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby cato » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:03 am

Eclipsed wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:12 am
I'm not so sure about that 50.600
Squishy Squad: Unite! in 46:984 | https://youtu.be/zKjwwWS_5f8
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:12 am
Entralia Tunnel in 47.923
I refuse to believe that Mortimer's Gun was actually useful at this level. This run is probably the easiest of my 3 newest ones to beat.
Entralia Tunnel in 47:338 | https://youtu.be/D_Ns2SOug08

Also:
So many frames perfect input.
Sparkling Breeze in 1:02:523 | https://youtu.be/o8cAwXV4De8
MECHDRAGON777 wrote: If my Snowcone Desert time was valid (i.e. able to be recorded without lag), I would have taken the time.
Snowcone Factory in 48:292 | https://youtu.be/GNlNXFJOtEg
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DIET GRAVEL
Prototype District in 46.646 by Eclipsed
Prototype District in 44:769 | https://youtu.be/WyEbECPIgg4

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Thunder Alley in 1:25:923 | https://youtu.be/tiK4GyRIfEk

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:11 am

cato wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:03 am

Entralia Tunnel in 47:338 | https://youtu.be/D_Ns2SOug08
Entralia Tunnel in 47.107


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Prototype District in 44:769 | https://youtu.be/WyEbECPIgg4

Prototype District in 42:815


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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[Subzero Heroes - Level 2,5 by Eclipsed Level 1-6 by cato]
So, I don't think I'll be able to do anymore of these for now. My wrist hurts. Here's the general outline of the other 4 levels.

Squishy Squad Unite
1. I think using 2 diet gravels than a bubble bottle near the end saves more time overall than using a surge soup to avoid left and right turns.
2. (Not Entirely Sure) I think equipping glimmering cape instead of wide cape would actually be better. You can do everything you already do with wide cape without it equipped except for breaking the blocks near the checkpoint. I think the time you save with glimmering cape with all four-five super jumps is more than the time you save with smooth brick breaking with wide cape near the checkpoint.

Sparkling Breeze
1. Use 3 Diet Gravel instead and figure out a relatively damgeless route, I've been hit 6 times and am only 7 seconds away from beating a 1:02. When you use the second bubble bottle instead just damage boost there and break the brick during i-frames

Snowcone Factory
Haven't looked into this one

Thunder Alley
1. I definitely thinking that using 3 diet gravel at the start would allow for a quicker time. There's a lot of horizontal running in this level.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby cato » Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:55 pm

Eclipsed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 am
Entralia Tunnel in 47.107
Never, again.
Entralia Tunnel in 47:015 | https://youtu.be/ZDDre44qbx0
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Prototype District in 42:815
Prototype District in 41:876 | https://youtu.be/-byBbke3YNY
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Squishy Squad Unite
1. I think using 2 diet gravels than a bubble bottle near the end saves more time overall than using a surge soup to avoid left and right turns.
Well, the firesnake and the moving Dino are a problem. This level is already hard with speed 1.
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Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 am
Sparkling Breeze
1. Use 3 Diet Gravel instead and figure out a relatively damgeless route, I've been hit 6 times and am only 7 seconds away from beating a 1:02. When you use the second bubble bottle instead just damage boost there and break the brick during i-frames
I prefer not to make more frame-perfect inputs to kill the chucks as if I am running triple the speed than before.
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Thunder Alley
1. I definitely thinking that using 3 diet gravel at the start would allow for a quicker time. There's a lot of horizontal running in this level.
Well, I tried that. It barely save anytime since you have to wait for the Metroid platform twice in the level.
Thunder Alley in 1:23:446 | https://youtu.be/7tDUru7J6Q0
That's the best I can do without my mind breaking from all the failure attempts. Ignore the background noises, I forgot to turn off my mic.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:12 pm

cato wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:55 pm
Eclipsed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 am
Sparkling Breeze
1. Use 3 Diet Gravel instead and figure out a relatively damgeless route, I've been hit 6 times and am only 7 seconds away from beating a 1:02. When you use the second bubble bottle instead just damage boost there and break the brick during i-frames
I prefer not to make more frame-perfect inputs to kill the chucks as if I am running triple the speed than before.
To beat a 1:02 you don’t even have to do everything perfectly if you start with 3 diet gravel. There’s a lot of room for mistakes.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:44 pm

cato wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:55 pm
Eclipsed wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:26 am
Sparkling Breeze
1. Use 3 Diet Gravel instead and figure out a relatively damgeless route, I've been hit 6 times and am only 7 seconds away from beating a 1:02. When you use the second bubble bottle instead just damage boost there and break the brick during i-frames
I prefer not to make more frame-perfect inputs to kill the chucks as if I am running triple the speed than before.
If you're not going to do it I'm just going to do it myself


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Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:55 pm

Prototype District in 41:876 | https://youtu.be/-byBbke3YNY
Let me just shave 2 frames off that


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Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:55 pm

Never, again.
Entralia Tunnel in 47:015 | https://youtu.be/ZDDre44qbx0
Again???. The pipe right after the checkpoint is so annoying to deal with is probably what you're talking about.



In essence, I'm trying to monitor my wrist better.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby cato » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:18 pm

Eclipsed wrote:
Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:54 pm
If you're not going to do it I'm just going to do it myself
A sub 1 minute is possible.
Sparkling Breeze in 59:461 | https://youtu.be/w4ZuwWMVqSY
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:54 pm
Let me just shave 2 frames off that
And let me just shave 0.8 seconds off that.
Prototype District in 41:076 | https://youtu.be/XDMvjyZ9mU8
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Sun Sep 20, 2020 3:54 pm
Again???. The pipe right after the checkpoint is so annoying to deal with is probably what you're talking about.
gg
I can't perform such a perfect run, especially with the seven blocks height jump at the end.

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:23 pm

cato wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:18 pm
gg
I can't perform such a perfect run, especially with the seven blocks height jump at the end.
That one's not that bad to do. You just have to use gripe juice and then you have to do a slight delay before jumping into the pipe. It takes some time to get used to.

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And let me just shave 0.8 seconds off that.
Prototype District in 41:076 | https://youtu.be/XDMvjyZ9mU8

I can't perform such a perfect run, especially with the seven blocks height jump at the end.
So, how do you consistently do the last 2 fuzzies in section 2? I've been trying to play this level and I only can get past section 2 in around 1 out of every 50 tries due to those 2 fuzzies. My current PB is 41:092

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[Subzero Heroes - Level 2 by Eclipsed Level 1,3,4,5,6 by cato]
I hate this level. I hate everything about this level. I'm going to take a break from prototype district after this. I don't think any of the things I did differently actually saves time so I made the run harder for myself for no reason

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby cato » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:02 pm

Eclipsed wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:06 pm

So, how do you consistently do the last 2 fuzzies in section 2? I've been trying to play this level and I only can get past section 2 in around 1 out of every 50 tries due to those 2 fuzzies. My current PB is 41:092
I hate this level. I hate everything about this level. I'm going to take a break from prototype district after this. I don't think any of the things I did differently actually saves time so I made the run harder for myself for no reason
I usually have to wait for the fuzzies to line up.
Well, a sub 41 is possible.
Prototype District in 40:876 | https://youtu.be/oKTC3acHw4Q

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Re: SMBX Speedrunning General[2k1x SubZero Heroes - First 6 Levels]

Postby Eclipsed » Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:14 pm

cato wrote:
Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:02 pm

I usually have to wait for the fuzzies to line up.
Well, a sub 41 is possible.
Prototype District in 40:876 | https://youtu.be/oKTC3acHw4Q
Awesome, so my theory on time saves was accurate. Anyways, I don't think I'm going to do runs for a while. After running for a bit, I realized that I Just don't have the time to do so.


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