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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Ridley12 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:47 pm

Aren't you guys worried that you'll get hit by Nintendo? I mean, you have your own website and all...
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Chorpe » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:55 pm

Ridley12 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:47 pm
Aren't you guys worried that you'll get hit by Nintendo? I mean, you have your own website and all...
They probably won't get into the trouble, since SMBX exists for a long time, and SMBX2 exists for some time too kinda. (And SMBX was C&D because of website i guess, so i guess no)
There is nothing interesting here to see.

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Wohlstand » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Ridley12 wrote:
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Aren't you guys worried that you'll get hit by Nintendo? I mean, you have your own website and all...
The whole stuff is discussed many times a lot. There are ways to avoid sudden deletion:
* Don't distrubute stuff on US or any American servers as NOA has easy to attack that because of DMCA. Europe has own copyright laws and NOE which is much more kind than NOA. In Russia Nintendo has no power.
* Never try to earn money from this: no ads, no paid features, no any fee from the copyrighted (Mario-related) stuff. It's just a parasitism which cause Nintendo to attack this.
* When too small community (amount 500~1000 users), you're in semi-safe as you'll be not under attention. However, when site gets 10k+ visits per day, then lawers will carefully watch for you, then, be VERY careful.

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Hoeloe » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:11 pm

Effectively this is where things stand:
  • There is a clause in copyright law called "fair use", which allows for copyrighted material to be used for "transformative works" without violation. This clause is what SMBX currently operates under, and is not "illegal" because of this.
  • While we have not explicitly asked permission from Nintendo, we do not actually need this for fair use to apply, and in fact Nintendo themselves state that you should not ask for permission for works governed by fair use.
  • Should Nintendo inform us that they believe we are not operating in accordance with the fair use clause, then SMBX will be removed from download.
  • Our intention in that instance is to adapt the engine to remove all copyrighted material, such that it can be hosted as its own project without interfering with copyright, assuming this is agreeable.
Currently, as we have had no such notice, we are assuming that Nintendo agrees with our assessment that SMBX constitutes a transformative work under fair use, and thus we are not worried about action being taken (especially as Nintendo have had contact with the community previously with regards to the old URL).

SMBX is not an illegal work, and should Nintendo take issue with it, we will attempt to do what we can to preserve the community in a way that everybody, including Nintendo can agree on.

This is all available on the blog FAQ, by the way, so I'd suggest taking a look there.

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby MarioRPGExpert93 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:12 pm

Um, I just tried to download Super Mario Bros. X 2.0 Beta 3 on this new gaming laptop, and I got this instead of a page including the download link:

503 - Service Not Available and a White screen


Is the page down or something? :?
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Enjl » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:16 pm

MarioRPGExpert93 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:12 pm
Um, I just tried to download SMBX2 Beta 3 on this new gaming laptop, and I got this instead of a page including the download link:

503 - Service Not Available and a White screen


Is the page down or something? :?
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Skullzrulerz » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:23 am

Can someone help as compared to SMBX 1.3.0.1 this beta is causing a ton of lag

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby MarioRPGExpert93 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:23 pm

Skullzrulerz wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:23 am
Can someone help as compared to SMBX 1.3.0.1 this beta is causing a ton of lag
If 2.0 Beta 3 was causing a ton of lag, it might be your computer. I used to have the lag problem back on my old laptop
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby GforGoomba » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:10 pm

MarioRPGExpert93 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:23 pm
Skullzrulerz wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:23 am
Can someone help as compared to SMBX 1.3.0.1 this beta is causing a ton of lag
If 2.0 Beta 3 was causing a ton of lag, it might be your computer. I used to have the lag problem back on my old laptop
Before I factory reset, I had OpenGL. I think its the lack of OGL that makes it run smoothly.
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Electriking » Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:37 pm

GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:10 pm
MarioRPGExpert93 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:23 pm
Skullzrulerz wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:23 am
Can someone help as compared to SMBX 1.3.0.1 this beta is causing a ton of lag
If 2.0 Beta 3 was causing a ton of lag, it might be your computer. I used to have the lag problem back on my old laptop
Before I factory reset, I had OpenGL. I think its the lack of OGL that makes it run smoothly.
But OpenGL is what makes some features in SMBX2 work.
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby PixelPest » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:35 pm

Electriking wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:37 pm
GforGoomba wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:10 pm
MarioRPGExpert93 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:23 pm


If 2.0 Beta 3 was causing a ton of lag, it might be your computer. I used to have the lag problem back on my old laptop
Before I factory reset, I had OpenGL. I think its the lack of OGL that makes it run smoothly.
But OpenGL is what makes some features in SMBX2 work.
A lot of stuff is not going to work right without OpenGL, especially in Beta4

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Jashthefuntime » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:46 am

cant wait for the beta 4...if you guys are still working on it of course
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Electriking » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:53 am

Jashthefuntime wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:46 am
cant wait for the beta 4...if you guys are still working on it of course
They are still working on it.

And there is a new blog post.
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Beyond » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:25 pm

There is any restrictions with doing YouTube videos/Twitch streams playing SMBX?
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby HenryRichard » Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:06 am

None, though some music may get flagged by YouTube's Content ID.
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby PCjoe » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:09 am

Did Horikawa Otane quit smbx 2.0 dev? Her YouTube channel has disappeared.

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby MarioRPGExpert93 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:20 am

PCjoe wrote:
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Did Horikawa Otane quit smbx 2.0 dev? Her YouTube channel has disappeared.
Either that, or she was hiding from her stalker. idk
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby Cedur » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:19 am

She has retired from the internet.
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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby candle » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:06 am

Cedur wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:19 am
She has retired from the internet.
Really? :( Let's hope she'll return one day.

Anyway, can someone tell me which episode it is that you can see on the SMBX 2 download page? Looks cool... tia

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Re: SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

Postby PixelPest » Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:31 am

candle wrote:
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Cedur wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:19 am
She has retired from the internet.
Really? :( Let's hope she'll return one day.

Anyway, can someone tell me which episode it is that you can see on the SMBX 2 download page? Looks cool... tia
I know at least some (if not all) are from the demo levels


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