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Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:08 pm
by Snessy the duck
So, I was wondering, why do people actually like Kaizo levels? I don't really see much appeal in extremely cumbersome levels that require near-perfect player imput and memorisation in order to finish. I much more prefer fun and fair traditional challenges that don't require insane amounts of perfection. How has these kinds of levels gained such a huge following over the years? I just don't get it!

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:44 pm
by MECHDRAGON777
Snessy the duck wrote:So, I was wondering, why do people actually like Kaizo levels? I don't really see much appeal in extremely cumbersome levels that require near-perfect player imput and memorisation in order to finish. I much more prefer fun and fair traditional challenges that don't require insane amounts of perfection. How has these kinds of levels gained such a huge following over the years? I just don't get it!
Personally, I would say the satisfaction of completing them.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:28 pm
by alwahla
It's some kind of cult thing. People want to challenge themselves.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:41 pm
by Cedur
People also love bragging rights. But I agree Kaizo levels are so much beyond good and evil in terms of difficulty and player-friendliness that I don't try them. Respect to those who spend (and waste?) their time on that.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:54 pm
by bossedit8
People like to have a super high difficulty from the start to get a high challenge on the players who are practiced and skilled enough to do it. Also, memorization is involved such as invisible blocks covering onto your way for tricking the players aswell for a laugh to the others aka reactions.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:20 pm
by Electriking
Probably to challenge themselves because they have mastered the controls etc, and test themselves to the limit.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:46 pm
by Enjl
Masochism.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:52 pm
by crusher169
i love watching people die constantly and rage over my own kaizo levels. its my personal art form <3

that and they are easier to make than normal levels since thy usually are shorter

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:54 pm
by Electriking
crusher169 wrote:that and they are easier to make than normal levels since thy usually are shorter
But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:58 pm
by crusher169
King of Eterity wrote:
crusher169 wrote:that and they are easier to make than normal levels since thy usually are shorter
But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.
well with kaizo the levels can be any length tbh but ive never seen a kaizo level that is as long as some of the other things ive seen in this community...

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:04 pm
by Cedur
Even if creating a kaizo level may be shorter at first ... testing it to make sure you don't have an outright incompleteable mess will take you enough time after making the level

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:05 pm
by MECHDRAGON777
crusher169 wrote:
King of Eterity wrote:
crusher169 wrote:that and they are easier to make than normal levels since thy usually are shorter
But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.
well with kaizo the levels can be any length tbh but ive never seen a kaizo level that is as long as some of the other things ive seen in this community...
Did you forget my Kaizo level is longer than most levels on this forum?

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:06 pm
by Enjl
crusher169 wrote:
King of Eterity wrote:
crusher169 wrote:that and they are easier to make than normal levels since thy usually are shorter
But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.
well with kaizo the levels can be any length tbh but ive never seen a kaizo level that is as long as some of the other things ive seen in this community...
play kaizo x3 when we release it. There are some levels longer than anything you've ever seen in this community. And length of the level doesn't correlate to its difficulty.

Also I don't think kaizo levels are easier to make than normal levels. If anything, they're harder to make.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:26 pm
by crusher169
Enjl wrote:
crusher169 wrote:
King of Eterity wrote: But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.
well with kaizo the levels can be any length tbh but ive never seen a kaizo level that is as long as some of the other things ive seen in this community...
play kaizo x3 when we release it. There are some levels longer than anything you've ever seen in this community. And length of the level doesn't correlate to its difficulty.

Also I don't think kaizo levels are easier to make than normal levels. If anything, they're harder to make.
i am aware that there are long kaizo levels and i meant i havent really seen any. i know there probablly are long kaizo levels but i guess i just havent seen many or almost any

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:28 pm
by Enjl
my point is i want to show you some because they're great lol

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:37 pm
by Electriking
Enjl wrote:
crusher169 wrote:
King of Eterity wrote: But shorter levels are generally easier because less opportunity to make mistakes.
well with kaizo the levels can be any length tbh but ive never seen a kaizo level that is as long as some of the other things ive seen in this community...
play kaizo x3 when we release it. There are some levels longer than anything you've ever seen in this community. And length of the level doesn't correlate to its difficulty.

Also I don't think kaizo levels are easier to make than normal levels. If anything, they're harder to make.
Length does correlate to difficulty to a certain extent, tough that can also depend on several things (like the amount of challenges the level posseses). And yes, Kaizos would be harder to make because of the testing process mainly but the fact that it is so easy to make it impossible and of course it could end up not being actually kaizo difficulty.

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:10 pm
by ProngoKingdom
Maybe some people like Kaizo because it's more fast paced in places and more challenging (or unfairly hard lol)

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:51 pm
by bossedit8
Anyway, Kaizo can be fun depending if you either watch 'em or play...



Original link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cVdxQ5hJwQ

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:10 pm
by PixelPest
I find it to be fun just because it's a good challenge and it feels so satisfying to finish them. They also take a lot of creativity to make which is part of the fun experience imo

Re: Why do people like Kaizo levels?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:24 pm
by ParmaJon
I find that there are super neat gimmicks that are just too mean for normal levels that work in kaizo levels.