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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby MrPunchia » Mon May 22, 2017 7:29 pm

HenryRichard wrote:You could do something like that but use the SMB2 subspace potions (as buggy as they can sometimes be) and travel between the old mushroom kingdom and the new utopia to progress, though I have no idea how fun that would actually be.
I've played this 8-bit fangame called Super Mario Dimension which utilized this with the press of a key instead of the potions.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Artemis008 » Sat May 27, 2017 1:01 am

If you didn't want a hub, you could put doors that lead to a completely blank over World and write "press a to return, start to save" in level tiles. Just don't have the overworld map connect levels.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby The0x539 » Sat May 27, 2017 1:30 am

Artemis008 wrote:If you didn't want a hub, you could put doors that lead to a completely blank over World and write "press a to return, start to save" in level tiles. Just don't have the overworld map connect levels.
Or save whenever relevant using some rudimentary Lua.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Electriking » Sat May 27, 2017 2:29 am

Artemis008 wrote:If you didn't want a hub, you could put doors that lead to a completely blank over World and write "press a to return, start to save" in level tiles. Just don't have the overworld map connect levels.
What exactly is this replying to? I know it looks very similar to what Mario Prime does but it does seem like anything relevant came before this to spark the reply.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby TDK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:54 pm

Snessy the duck wrote:Also, another thing I've noticed is the real lack of variety in most episodes' plots and playable characters. The plot is almost always just Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser with stars thrown in for no reason other than to have a plot, with them mostly just being threated as level exits rather than collectibles, and the playable characters are almost always just Mario and Luigi.
Tbh a plot doesn't really do much.

Although you do have a point about most episode being design just for Mario and Luigi.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Mable » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:05 am

Because it's easier to build levels around mario and luigi than any of the others.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Electriking » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:36 am

Mable wrote:Because it's easier to build levels around mario and luigi than any of the others.
Exactly. Peach and Toad are also pretty easy to build around. Link is a bit harder and the 2.0 characters have a learning curve and levels have to be specifically built around them to work, and since they will probably keep changing for as long as 2.0 is in beta, so no one will likely build levels and episodes specifically around them anyway (excluding the 2.0 dev team building the demo stages).
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Mable » Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:41 am

For Link i highly recommend reading Nien's thread about him, since there is a lot of stuff in it that can help making levels based on his skills.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby FirestarPlays » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:35 pm

I'm making a story-based episode! More on that later --->
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Electriking » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:47 pm

FirestarPlays wrote:I'm making a story-based episode! More on that later --->
So what will be unique about it?
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby arcade999 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:14 pm

MarioRPGExpert93 wrote:

How about something original for a very unique episode sample:

Instead of the usual "Mario & Luigi saves peach" common theme, how about a SMBX episode where Mario awakens from a deep sleep in the Mushroom Kingdom years later. But, everything was destroyed! And the entire Mushroom Kingdom has changed through out the years. Except, the newly revived "Mushroom Kingdom" has been renamed and becomes a beautiful utopia.

That's all I come up with atm

I had a similar idea, but it's about a toad who got unfairly accusated from a crime and get banned from mushroom kingdom for 30 years. 30 years later, he come back to mushroom kingdom, but everything is destroyed and under the forces of a strange evil, even if peach's and bowser's army joined their force to fight it, and it remain to this only toad to stop the apocalypse.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby TDK » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:00 pm

Be careful, a more original story doesn't make your episode unique.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby FirestarPlays » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:40 am

Well, Bowser isn't the main antagonist for a start...
I will stray away from the "Peach is kidnapped" cliche...
An all new villain with a mysterious backstory...
New enemies for SMBX such as the Goomba Tower...
There will be 11 worlds + 2 secret worlds! :D

In fact, you'll be able to play as Peach!
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby arcade999 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:44 am

TheDinoKing wrote:Be careful, a more original story doesn't make your episode unique.
Actually, yes, bacause it is different from the peachgettingkiddappedbybowsercliche épisodes.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Enjl » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:54 am

arcade999 wrote:
TheDinoKing wrote:Be careful, a more original story doesn't make your episode unique.
Actually, yes, bacause it is different from the peachgettingkiddappedbybowsercliche épisodes.
Pardon but are you implying an episode is original if it plays exactly like the invasion 2 but instead of saving peach you're seeking revenge because bowser killed her?
Plot in most episodes we see here is very shallow and there's nothing wrong with that. Games are interactive entertainment, not just a book.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby FireyPaperMario » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:59 am

arcade999 wrote:I had a similar idea, but it's about a toad who got unfairly accusated from a crime and get banned from mushroom kingdom for 30 years. 30 years later, he come back to mushroom kingdom, but everything is destroyed and under the forces of a strange evil, even if peach's and bowser's army joined their force to fight it, and it remain to this only toad to stop the apocalypse.
That sounded a lot more similar, but my SMBX episode (If I could make it!) takes place where Bowser and his clan were wiped-out entirely, and princess Peach dies and has no remaining relatives. And Mario awakens after a 100 year slumber and must protect the new uptopia Mushroom kingdom now!
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby arcade999 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:59 am

Enjl wrote:
arcade999 wrote:
TheDinoKing wrote:Be careful, a more original story doesn't make your episode unique.
Actually, yes, bacause it is different from the peachgettingkiddappedbybowsercliche épisodes.
Pardon but are you implying an episode is original if it plays exactly like the invasion 2 but instead of saving peach you're seeking revenge because bowser killed her?
Plot in most episodes we see here is very shallow and there's nothing wrong with that. Games are interactive entertainment, not just a book.
What is exactly the problem with an original story, originality? Also you are inventing things I never said.
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arcade999 wrote:I had a similar idea, but it's about a toad who got unfairly accusated from a crime and get banned from mushroom kingdom for 30 years. 30 years later, he come back to mushroom kingdom, but everything is destroyed and under the forces of a strange evil, even if peach's and bowser's army joined their force to fight it, and it remain to this only toad to stop the apocalypse.
That sounded a lot more similar, but my SMBX episode (If I could make it!) takes place where Bowser and his clan were wiped-out entirely, and princess Peach dies and has no remaining relatives. And Mario awakens after a 100 year slumber and must protect the new uptopia Mushroom kingdom now!
Cool scenario!
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby TDK » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:13 pm

arcade999 wrote:
Enjl wrote:
arcade999 wrote: Actually, yes, bacause it is different from the peachgettingkiddappedbybowsercliche épisodes.
Pardon but are you implying an episode is original if it plays exactly like the invasion 2 but instead of saving peach you're seeking revenge because bowser killed her?
Plot in most episodes we see here is very shallow and there's nothing wrong with that. Games are interactive entertainment, not just a book.
What is exactly the problem with an original story, originality? Also you are inventing things I never said.
Enjl just giving an example on why a different story doesn't just make an episode unique.

Also he didn't say that there's a problem with an original story, he just said there's nothing bad about a cliche story in a Mario fangame.

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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby Electriking » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:28 pm

arcade999 wrote:
Enjl wrote:
arcade999 wrote: Actually, yes, bacause it is different from the peachgettingkiddappedbybowsercliche épisodes.
Pardon but are you implying an episode is original if it plays exactly like the invasion 2 but instead of saving peach you're seeking revenge because bowser killed her?
Plot in most episodes we see here is very shallow and there's nothing wrong with that. Games are interactive entertainment, not just a book.
What is exactly the problem with an original story, originality? Also you are inventing things I never said.
It's that it does not make it an unique episode.
Unique episodes have original gameplay, not original stories alone.
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Re: We need more unique episodes.

Postby FirestarPlays » Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:36 pm

My gameplay will also be fun and original, trust me on that!
Plus, little to no use of SWITCH BLOCKS! (who likes those anyway LOL)
Levels start out easy, but get difficult towards the end.
Also, no unfair areas of the game.
The final boss is not Bowser for once.
There is a side-story that takes place after the final boss is defeated. (basically a postgame)
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You can play as Peach in this game ;)
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