Great Extravaganza 2 - RESULS (POSTED BY RYAA)

General discussion about Super Mario Bros. X.
User avatar
Phazon1111
Rex
Rex
Posts: 81
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:24 pm

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Phazon1111 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:32 pm

id like to participate
Spoiler: show
Image

User avatar
Electriking
Posts: 4476
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:32 pm
Flair: I have NO idea what to put here
Current Project: Something
Chat Username: ElectriKing
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Electriking » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:45 am

If you are unable to complete your levels in a week:

Are you still using the Legacy Editor?
If yes, get 2.0, which has PGE, because you are behind the times. PGE is a more efficient engine to make your levels, so you will automatically get faster at building levels

How well does your PC perform?
The slower your PC the slower your editor (hopefully PGE now) will load. The slower your editor loads the longer it takes for you to finish you level. If this prevents you from finishing it in one week, once again, you are behind the times. Upgrade your PC or buy a new one.

If after both of these you still cannot complete your level in a week, you are an inherenty bad level designer. Ask good level designers for advice to get better. Heck,try to complete your levels in less time. The better a level is, the less time it took to finish it. The best contest levels were started literally the day before the deadline, like this awsome masterpiece.
SMM2 ID: JJF-P7G-FSF

User avatar
The0x539
Nipper Plant
Nipper Plant
Posts: 751
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:02 pm
Current Project: SMBX2

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby The0x539 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:58 am

i am an inherently bad level designer

User avatar
Sancles-Chan
Silver Yoshi Egg
Silver Yoshi Egg
Posts: 1957
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:50 am
Flair: I've defeated humor

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Sancles-Chan » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:06 am

The0x539 wrote:i am an inherently bad level designer
wrong I think.
Image
I go by She/Her for everyone.

Zha Hong Lang
Lakitu
Lakitu
Posts: 445
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 am

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Zha Hong Lang » Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:47 am

The0x539 wrote:i am an inherently bad level designer
same, it took me a week just to learn lua let alone finish my level
(formerly Jayoshi, Luigi, Luigi.net)

User avatar
Waddle
Tellah
Tellah
Posts: 1570
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:59 am
Flair: The goblin uprising is upon us

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Waddle » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:04 am

I






am in.
Image

PixelPest
Link
Link
Posts: 7116
Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:38 pm
Flair: Tamer of Boom Booms
Current Project: Boom Boom Evolution
Chat Username: PixelPest
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby PixelPest » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:33 am

Sanct wrote:Also the deadline is shortened because you only need a week

December 8th's the new deadline.
You didn't change the OP

User avatar
crusher169
Ripper II
Ripper II
Posts: 353
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:09 am
Current Project: Getting my life together.
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby crusher169 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:51 pm

even though ive already entered, i feel obligated to say im going to enter regardless.
I'm not good at making signatures.

User avatar
Uzendayo
Kamikaze Koopa
Kamikaze Koopa
Posts: 1234
Joined: Thu May 29, 2014 6:11 pm
Current Project: I don't even know anymore

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Uzendayo » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 pm

in
Spoiler: show
I placed 18th in CC8,
I placed 8th in CC11, and I
Won 1st in the First Vanilla Level Competition
┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┤(・_├┬┴┬┴
You might know me as Epoch
STOP INSTIGATING
STOP INSTIGATING
STOP INSTIGATING
STOP INSTIGATING

User avatar
Sancles-Chan
Silver Yoshi Egg
Silver Yoshi Egg
Posts: 1957
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:50 am
Flair: I've defeated humor

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Sancles-Chan » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:37 pm

added
Image
I go by She/Her for everyone.

User avatar
MECHDRAGON777
Pink Yoshi Egg
Pink Yoshi Egg
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:40 pm
Flair: Nuclear Queen of Reversion.
Current Project: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... 9&start=10
Chat Username: 鬼人 正邪
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:09 pm

Who judges judge levels?

ImageImageImage
Image

Image

PixelPest
Link
Link
Posts: 7116
Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:38 pm
Flair: Tamer of Boom Booms
Current Project: Boom Boom Evolution
Chat Username: PixelPest
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby PixelPest » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:11 pm

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Who judges judge levels?
Judges

User avatar
xDestroy
Ninji
Ninji
Posts: 854
Joined: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:16 pm
Flair: shut the fuck up
Current Project: shut the fuck up
Chat Username: BALLS
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby xDestroy » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:14 pm

PixelPest wrote:
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Who judges judge levels?
Judges
Who judges judges judges levels however
no

User avatar
MECHDRAGON777
Pink Yoshi Egg
Pink Yoshi Egg
Posts: 6269
Joined: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:40 pm
Flair: Nuclear Queen of Reversion.
Current Project: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... 9&start=10
Chat Username: 鬼人 正邪
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:54 pm

xDestroy wrote:
PixelPest wrote:
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Who judges judge levels?
Judges
Who judges judges judges levels however
I mean, the reason it is flawed is the following:

If a judge submits, it means of of two things:

A: That judge gets one less score so there average will drop. We will use the following scores for both levels in this example:
Judge A 5 5
Judge B 7 7
Judge C 10 This is their level
Judge D 1 1
Well, the averages for these levels are: 5.75 for the non-judge and 4.3 repeating for the Judge. If this was Judge D's level, the results would be 5.75 and 7.3. Seems unfair to both the judge and the person who that is up against the judge in this regard.

B: Backup judge judges them, but then you need to worry:
Will they view the judges levels the same way as the missing judge does? It leads to a sense of non-uniformity.

This is why Judges are not allowed to submit. They are forced to make a post-game level instead.

ImageImageImage
Image

Image

PixelPest
Link
Link
Posts: 7116
Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:38 pm
Flair: Tamer of Boom Booms
Current Project: Boom Boom Evolution
Chat Username: PixelPest
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby PixelPest » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:12 pm

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:
xDestroy wrote:
PixelPest wrote: Judges
Who judges judges judges levels however
I mean, the reason it is flawed is the following:

If a judge submits, it means of of two things:

A: That judge gets one less score so there average will drop. We will use the following scores for both levels in this example:
Judge A 5 5
Judge B 7 7
Judge C 10 This is their level
Judge D 1 1
Well, the averages for these levels are: 5.75 for the non-judge and 4.3 repeating for the Judge. If this was Judge D's level, the results would be 5.75 and 7.3. Seems unfair to both the judge and the person who that is up against the judge in this regard.

B: Backup judge judges them, but then you need to worry:
Will they view the judges levels the same way as the missing judge does? It leads to a sense of non-uniformity.

This is why Judges are not allowed to submit. They are forced to make a post-game level instead.
In tons of contests a backup judge is used. I don't see it as an issue

User avatar
Electriking
Posts: 4476
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:32 pm
Flair: I have NO idea what to put here
Current Project: Something
Chat Username: ElectriKing
Contact:

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Electriking » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:38 am

Ace pointed out that back-up judges affect the consistency, meaning levels by level judges will be judged under different views compared to normal participants. So back-up judges are not a solution. The solution to the judges submitting levels and then having 1 less judge for that level is to not allow judges to submit. Just because many contests used something does not mean all contests should.
SMM2 ID: JJF-P7G-FSF

User avatar
RhysOwens
Lakitu
Lakitu
Posts: 423
Joined: Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:53 am

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby RhysOwens » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:27 am

Fine I'm going to perform the everyday activity of humans signing up for a contest which will hopefully not go down in flames.

Zha Hong Lang
Lakitu
Lakitu
Posts: 445
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 am

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Zha Hong Lang » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:34 am

Whatever option is taken for judges submitting their own levels is personal preference, and an evaluation of the situation. At one point, SMBX contests were so small that not letting judges participate would result in a tiny contest. Backup judges were used at first, then once the contests had enough judges to justify a slightly smaller average, backups were no longer used. Now the common approach is for judges' levels to simply remain in the contest episode, as seen in the MaGLX series and SCC (even though it's not out yet, judges didn't participate).
(formerly Jayoshi, Luigi, Luigi.net)

User avatar
Ryaa
Pink Yoshi Egg
Pink Yoshi Egg
Posts: 130
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:38 pm
Current Project: Revelation X (Webcomic)
Chat Username: Ryaa

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Ryaa » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:40 pm

What is the penalty if I submit two more levels
Pronounced like "Rai-ah"

Image
Image

Unidentified
Larry Koopa
Larry Koopa
Posts: 2372
Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:33 am

Re: Great Extravaganza 2 - REAL CONTEST (NOT CLICKBAIT)

Postby Unidentified » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:44 pm

Ryaa wrote:What is the penalty if I submit two more levels
I assume it is instant win


Return to “General”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: mechamind and 9 guests