Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Waddle » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:57 am

That is not only irrelevant to the topic, you also need to drop the attitude. If this topic can’t get back on track in the form of actual discussion, I’m locking it.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Catskart » Mon Jan 01, 2018 6:44 am

Waddle Derp wrote:That is not only irrelevant to the topic, you also need to drop the attitude. If this topic can’t get back on track in the form of actual discussion, I’m locking it.
Yep, it seems irrelevant, but I just want to show the bad faith of this kind of member of 2.0 community who think that his opinion are superior and they are always right, who never recognize his faults.
Yes, you can lock it and I'll stop to debate, because I feel that discussion will be a dialogue of the deaf again.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Enjl » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:21 am

Waddle Derp wrote:That is not only irrelevant to the topic, you also need to drop the attitude. If this topic can’t get back on track in the form of actual discussion, I’m locking it.
Idk it looked pretty relevant in the sense that it highlights weirdness in FanofSMBX's arguing. Attitude aside (OP's attitude was more offputting than Catskart's btw IMO), it does seem weird to me why he would promote smbx2 at all with this backstory to his stance on mario fan creations.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby OlieGamerTV » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:32 am

i seem to see that as relevent, and nintendo do seem to hate alot of fan games, but SMBX has been the one to last the longest so far.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Unidentified » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:40 am

tbh I don't think this topic should even exist. And Catskart's arguments are actually pretty valid imo.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Aero » Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:35 pm

There's legitimate reasons to discuss not using particular editors with attitudes set aside. Saying the 38A dev is a jerk, SMBX2 devs are jerks, or both are jerks doesn't hold any weight when discussing software use. Again, 38A should just be encouraged to make the project open source so that issues go away instead of hoping people will switch on their own by reading this stuff when they're already used to a particular editor.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Hoeloe » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:00 am

GhostHawk wrote:Saying the 38A dev is a jerk doesn't hold any weight when discussing software use.
The only slightly relevant point is that the 38A dev's stubbornness directly affects how the engine develops, anywhere from refusing to fix bugs to outright removing features out of spite, which can cause problems for thise attempting to develop with the engine.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Aero » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:30 pm

That's why he needs to be urged to make it open source so that the engine doesn't depend on his particular personality flaws. Keeping it locked down and using that against 38A's community is enabling that behavior. That's an important factor to consider before using anyone's software.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Taycamgame » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:11 pm

Was the production of 38A easy? Maybe someone could create a new version of 38A, perhaps 38B? 76A?
But then again, 2.0 is all we really need. If the developer of 38A wasn't such a jerk, then maybe both versions would be widely used.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Eri7 » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:14 pm

Taycamgame wrote:Was the production of 38A easy? Maybe someone could create a new version of 38A, perhaps 38B? 76A?
But then again, 2.0 is all we really need. If the developer of 38A wasn't such a jerk, then maybe both versions would be widely used.
A lot of Spanish people use 38A and videos related to the 38A's engine like levels or scripts are very popular compared to 2.0 but I hope 2.0 gets that kind of popularity soon.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Taycamgame » Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:20 pm

It should, considering the full release could be closer than ever. Just don't get why there are two different versions of basically the same game that are being developed differently. 38A shouldn't be called SMBX to distinguish it from the actual SMBX engine.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby xDestroy » Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:01 pm

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby KesterTank » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:59 am

Eri7 wrote:
Taycamgame wrote:Was the production of 38A easy? Maybe someone could create a new version of 38A, perhaps 38B? 76A?
But then again, 2.0 is all we really need. If the developer of 38A wasn't such a jerk, then maybe both versions would be widely used.
A lot of Spanish people use 38A and videos related to the 38A's engine like levels or scripts are very popular compared to 2.0 but I hope 2.0 gets that kind of popularity soon.
Also a lot of people in youtube go literally steal gfx and plagiarise to order get views and subs in the 38A community.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Eri7 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:19 am

KesterTank wrote:
Eri7 wrote:
Taycamgame wrote:Was the production of 38A easy? Maybe someone could create a new version of 38A, perhaps 38B? 76A?
But then again, 2.0 is all we really need. If the developer of 38A wasn't such a jerk, then maybe both versions would be widely used.
A lot of Spanish people use 38A and videos related to the 38A's engine like levels or scripts are very popular compared to 2.0 but I hope 2.0 gets that kind of popularity soon.
Also a lot of people in youtube go literally steal gfx and plagiarise to order get views and subs in the 38A community.
Yeah , a Spanish person stole one of my levels and changed it a bit only to get a lot of views because of my hard work...
Here is the level : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdPBIp8dnw , it has 17k views

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Electriking » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:16 am

Eri7 wrote:
KesterTank wrote:
Eri7 wrote: A lot of Spanish people use 38A and videos related to the 38A's engine like levels or scripts are very popular compared to 2.0 but I hope 2.0 gets that kind of popularity soon.
Also a lot of people in youtube go literally steal gfx and plagiarise to order get views and subs in the 38A community.
Yeah , a Spanish person stole one of my levels and changed it a bit only to get a lot of views because of my hard work...
Here is the level : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdPBIp8dnw , it has 17k views
Did he claim it as his own?

And don't forget superbird111, who is making bootleg TGE sequels in 1.4, as well as TI.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Enjl » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:10 am

I played superbird's TGE7 Worlds 1-3 and so far none of the levels are stolen, only the series' name is. The levels themselves are about what you'd expect from every generic episode ever. Nothing remotely comparable to slightly editing someone's level and releasing as their own, though. Looking at you, 1-1 remakes.
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Eri7 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:08 am

Electriking wrote:
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KesterTank wrote: Also a lot of people in youtube go literally steal gfx and plagiarise to order get views and subs in the 38A community.
Yeah , a Spanish person stole one of my levels and changed it a bit only to get a lot of views because of my hard work...
Here is the level : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdPBIp8dnw , it has 17k views
Did he claim it as his own?

And don't forget superbird111, who is making bootleg TGE sequels in 1.4, as well as TI.
He never asked me if he can use the level and he hasn't given me any credits regarding the level so of course that means he claimed it as his own.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby KesterTank » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:22 pm

Enjl wrote:I played superbird's TGE7 Worlds 1-3 and so far none of the levels are stolen, only the series' name is. The levels themselves are about what you'd expect from every generic episode ever. Nothing remotely comparable to slightly editing someone's level and releasing as their own, though. Looking at you, 1-1 remakes.
Well it's a newer super mario bros wii rip off actually infact he plargised TGE3.
although it's more much of a generic "LX XZIT" wannabe episode.

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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby arcade999 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:10 pm

KesterTank wrote:it's more much of a generic "LX XZIT" wannabe episode.
you mean, with ''teascipted'' bosses and stuff?
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Re: Please Don't Use SMBX 38A - Here's Why

Postby Enjl » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:25 pm

arcade999 wrote:
KesterTank wrote:it's more much of a generic "LX XZIT" wannabe episode.
you mean, with ''teascipted'' bosses and stuff?
Nah more in terms of level design. The bosses are vanilla.
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