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ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Husklyman » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:02 am

I think the fact there are some features worked in smbx 1.4.4 and doesn't exist in the smbx 2.0 betas means the game team are going to remove them, now I will talk about things I don't feel should be removed:

First: to set Lukita drop what I choose-
Even in New Super Mario Bros U we have this with Pirahana Lukita, so I want to be able to choose what Lukita will throw, you can build creative levels with it so I feel it's not right to remove this abillity.

2nd: custom water-
I know it was crashing the game a lot but I think you can fix it by enabling take water, and set only the angle, this wasn't crashing the game. l want the water bubbles, too

3rd: set what will get out of the Spiny Eggs, Koopa Bros, Fire Pirahana and I add Mouser-
To make them throw whatever I WANT was really fun, I can make a Lukita trowing Spiny Eggs with Dry Bones for scary levels, for example, or to set a Pirahana to throw goombas inside vertical levels

4th: choose the angle of the generator and the chase mode-
To make a projectile spawn naturally is fun, but to make it spawn into the player face is even more, I want to be able to do it, bonus: being able to set it at an angle relative to the player.
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Electriking » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 am

Husklyman wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:02 am
I think the fact there are some features worked in smbx 1.4.4 and doesn't exist in the smbx 2.0 betas means the game team are going to remove them
SMBX 38A and SMBX2 are not the same. They are completely different engines (SMBX2 being an extension to the 1.3 engine and 38A is not SMBX). Both have completely different dev teams. In short, SMBX2 does not remove anything from 1.4.
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Scroll » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:34 pm

Electriking wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 am
38A is not SMBX
It is SMBX, just not the original engine

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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby MegaDood » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:32 pm

VanillaDude wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:34 pm
Electriking wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 am
38A is not SMBX
It is SMBX, just not the original engine
It's like a different flavor of SMBX.
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Eri7 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:31 pm

MegaDood wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:32 pm
VanillaDude wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:34 pm
Electriking wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 am
38A is not SMBX
It is SMBX, just not the original engine
It's like a different flavor of SMBX.
It's just another engine made to imitate SMBX but it isn't really "SMBX".
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Hoeloe » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:34 pm

VanillaDude wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:34 pm
Electriking wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 am
38A is not SMBX
It is SMBX, just not the original engine
No, it's not. It's a completely unrelated and unaffiliated engine made to look like SMBX. It has nothing to do with SMBX2 and never has. SMBX2 is not an "update" to 38A's engine, and we're not "removing" stuff that was in 38A, because 38A is not at all related to what we do. SMBX2 is a continuation of the original SMBX, SMBX38A is a completely different engine.

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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby MegaDood » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:02 am

Eri7 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:31 pm
MegaDood wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:32 pm
VanillaDude wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:34 pm

It is SMBX, just not the original engine
It's like a different flavor of SMBX.
It's just another engine made to imitate SMBX but it isn't really "SMBX".
Oh ok. But why do people use it if it's not actually SMBX then?
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Cedur » Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:10 am

tbh the simple line "38A is not SMBX" should be replaced with the more accurate "38A is not a continuation of SMBX". The former just appears too downputting and propagandastic (even though it's not meant to be).

As to why people use / used it? Greater customization and mass amount of extra NPCs and features etc ... most importantly, Lx Xzit also spread it around on Youtube especially to spanish-speaking people, who you sometimes see coming to the forum and aggressively promoting 38A, and who are sometimes under the false impression that 38A were the only and original SMBX build to exist
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Eri7 » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:15 am

MegaDood wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:02 am
Eri7 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:31 pm
MegaDood wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:32 pm


It's like a different flavor of SMBX.
It's just another engine made to imitate SMBX but it isn't really "SMBX".
Oh ok. But why do people use it if it's not actually SMBX then?
I for example started using it because i wasn't aware of the existance of smbx2 until at least 5 months after using 38A and because i made a lot of progress on my stuff in 38A, i couldn't just move to 2.0 as converting the stuff to it was not something i could do back then and now i am sticking with 38A because most of my knowledge is there and because i know i can't convert my project to 2.0 yet.
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby not rockythechao » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:41 am

Cedur wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:10 am
tbh the simple line "38A is not SMBX" should be replaced with the more accurate "38A is not a continuation of SMBX". The former just appears too downputting and propagandastic (even though it's not meant to be).
Maybe "38A is a clone/replica of redigit's SMBX" or something? Because yeah, just saying "it's not" really isn't clear at all. There needs to be emphasis on the fact that, yes, the two seem the same on the surface, but 38A's a completely separate codebase that the creator misleadingly chose to brand as an updated version of Redigit's codebase.
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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby Scroll » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:18 pm

MegaDood wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:02 am
Eri7 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:31 pm
MegaDood wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:32 pm


It's like a different flavor of SMBX.
It's just another engine made to imitate SMBX but it isn't really "SMBX".
Oh ok. But why do people use it if it's not actually SMBX then?
In my opinion is because it has a lot of attractive features and some people feels rather more comfortable with its editor than with PGE. It's also more lightweight than SMBX 2.0 though I would not use it as often as 1.3/2.0 because X2 has absolutely a better support and development while 38A it's not a stable engine at all because of the bugs and runtime-errors that happen often

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Re: ADD BACK THE ABILLITIES

Postby MegaDood » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:57 am

VanillaDude wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:18 pm
MegaDood wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:02 am
Eri7 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:31 pm


It's just another engine made to imitate SMBX but it isn't really "SMBX".
Oh ok. But why do people use it if it's not actually SMBX then?
In my opinion is because it has a lot of attractive features and some people feels rather more comfortable with its editor than with PGE. It's also more lightweight than SMBX 2.0 though I would not use it as often as 1.3/2.0 because X2 has absolutely a better support and development while 38A it's not a stable engine at all because of the bugs and runtime-errors that happen often
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