Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

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Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby Radiance » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:55 am

You may answer this question as a designer or as a player or maybe even both.

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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby Electriking » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:35 am

If starting every level as small Mario (or another specific power-up) is an important part of the episode, then removing power-ups at the end of every level is fair.
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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby LGLMAKING » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 am

I know it's entirely possible in 38A and wouldn't be surprised if it would be possible with Lunalua. I don't know about the ethics of it. SMW's system of having a cutscene at the start of a no-rides level is pretty clear to the player. The best approach would be simply consistency. I'd you're gonna take away a ride at the end of a level do it at the end of every level.
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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby cato » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:34 am

Depends. If the episode is like an adventure platforming, don't remove them. If the episode is like a puzzle, Pure RPG, minigame type, do it.

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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby Electriking » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:59 am

cato wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:34 am
Depends. If the episode is like an adventure platforming, don't remove them.
FYI, it is possible to create an adventure platformer where the levels require you to start off as small Mario.
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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby Cedur » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:04 am

LGLMAKING wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 am
I know it's entirely possible in 38A and wouldn't be surprised if it would be possible with Lunalua. I don't know about the ethics of it. SMW's system of having a cutscene at the start of a no-rides level is pretty clear to the player. The best approach would be simply consistency. I'd you're gonna take away a ride at the end of a level do it at the end of every level.

You theoretically don't even need Lua for it, just place a bunch of passive filters in front of the goal. (and if you don't like the look, you can make them invisible through cgfx?)

Anyway there's only little kinds of episodes where this should be done (like, kaizo or puzzle a la Enigmatic, where there are no powerups anyway).
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Re: Is removing mounts/power-ups on the end of every level fair or not?

Postby Enjl » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:42 am

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