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What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby HeroLinik » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:38 pm

I was reading SuperMario12345's topic just now and it inspired me to make this, as a "sister" topic.

If you've played through a lot of levels, you should soon find that a lot of them are SMB3-styled. You will find a fair number of SMW levels, but the rest of the styles are uncommon in comparison, and SMB3 seems to beat them all in terms of popularity, possibly to the point where nearly everyone is doing an SMB3 level.

Why do you guys think we are overusing SMB3?
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby h2643 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:44 pm

Not only we use SMB3-like graphics, but also other graphical designers at various Mario places do.

Anyway, this question has already been answered - SMB3 has the most beautiful and realistic colors, though other styles are good too, but not as good as SMB3.

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Gameinsky » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:45 pm

My opinions on this subject, as someone that also loves SMB3-styled levels.

SMB1 feels extremely flat and bland compared to SMB3 with the exception of the castle and underground graphics.

SMB2 actually has a really cool style. I think because the SMB2 enemies act so differently from the SMB3 ones it's less used.
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SMW has a very cartoony style and feels more blocky than everything else, I'm personally not a big fan.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Eternity » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:03 pm

I prefer SMW personally, but SMB3 kinda feels like SMBX's default style, Mario and Luigi (the most common playables, or at least the default ones) being SMB3-styled and it being the most common style in The Invasion 2 iirc (or at least the first levels were SMB3-styled).
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Uzendayo » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:47 pm

SMB3 is my least favorite style. I think it has to do with most people making SMB3 graphics and stuff. Redigit originally made Invasion and Invasion 2 mostly SMB3 dominant, and I assume that pretty much said,"SMB3 IS DA BEST!!!"
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Thetoxicminecrafter1 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:35 pm

Well, it definitely ties in with the huge popularity of smb3 graphics, since many like smb3 gfx, many tend to build smb3 styled levels. As for the style of levels in general i think it's just the fact that Smb3 out of the 4 main games used, has the most interesting designs. it has many more secrets and neat parts to levels that really stands out. The alternate paths and ideas that are applied in Smb3 make the levels fun to play and also fun for people to build.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Enjl » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:03 pm

OP you obviously have no idea what kind of levels this community puts out:
None of them are even remotely close to what can be considered a SMB3 level. SMB3 levels are short in nature, have 1-2 bonus rooms in them and feature no checkpoint. The only thing which connects the community's levels to SMB3 levels is the shading style of the graphics.
Emral in the other thread wrote:People don't like smb3 recoloured stuff. They go crazy about smb3 styled stuff. That's because the shading style of smb3 is the most realistic looking from the classic mario games which are included in smbx.
It's been a long time since I've seen a proper SMB3 level made by the community. I think Mario Classic is the latest episode to pull off something remotely close to SMB3 while incorporating checkpoints and considering SMBX' screen regions.


In terms of SMB3 styled levels, most people even mess this up and end up with a clusterfuck of styles in their level which is supposed to convey the image of a specific style. Take this level which I randomly picked from the Levels forum but actually looks like a lot I see around here:
The grass, background hills, turn block and bushes are still SMW-styled. It's just that the colours create an illusion to the viewer.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Wind » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:59 pm

I don't see what's so bad about SMB3. Jesus, I don't see why anyone would give a shit.

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby bossedit8 » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:05 am

I really have a Feeling around on this area that most of the creators are just aiming for SMB3 just because of the graphics. Sure, Levels are also based on SMB3 but in SMBX, they're oftenly bigger and also even more Contents involved like combining SMW and sometimes SMB2 (enemy behavours for example). SMB3 is basically the norm we have here on SMBX which you can tell by the Player graphics what we have (unlike Peach and Toad which they are SMB2 relative).

Really wish peoples would aim for more simplier Contents like SMB or even more complex like Metroid but oh well... we can only guess.

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Sux » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:46 am

Well, My favorite style is SMB2
But exist more gfx from smb3, so IMO that's why are too many smb3 levels

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby underFlo » Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:21 am

Sux wrote:Well, My favorite style is SMB2
But exist more gfx from smb3, so IMO that's why are too many smb3 levels
That's actually a really good point. At some point there were more SMB3 Levels/GFX, which led ppl to make even more SMB3 GFX/Levels and so on, and now every style but SMB3 is severely underused.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Mable » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:27 am

Honestly theres no problem. Everyone has his own rights to use what he wants. I for myself also use a lot of smb3 styled levels in the 7 crystal shards.

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby sleepy » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:29 am

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Darkonius Mavakar » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:29 pm

Smb3's color palette just looks pretty, and also kind of realistic imo
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby FanofSMBX » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:07 pm

My thinking: it is a waste of SMBX capabilities to make it look like a SMW hack. You know I'm serious when I'm complimenting SMBX.

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Danny » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:10 pm

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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Superiorstar » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:27 pm

What is it with you with making these random repetitive topics like this that die out within a week?
Also SMB3 is the most realistic looking, it has good shading, and the levels just look awesome.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby JupiHornet » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:48 pm

Well, SMB3 has the most of everything iirc (blocks, backgrounds, songs, BGOs, etc.) and it's easy to make levels with that stuff.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby mechamind » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:55 pm

I personally thought there was a double obsession with SMB2 and SMB3 going around. Not necessarily at the forums, but to do with SMBX as a whole.
FanofSMBX wrote:My thinking: it is a waste of SMBX capabilities to make it look like a SMW hack. You know I'm serious when I'm complimenting SMBX.
I have to disagree with this one. Even if you did want to make it look like SMW, there are enough features a ROM hack could never handle (except maybe for a single-level or world presentation in SMW), so I would not consider it a waste.
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Re: What is it with people and SMB3 levels?

Postby Mosaic » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:52 pm

I really think that SMB3 the official game as a whole is overrated. And so many people praise the game and no one asks why people do. I actually kind think that its kind of sad that everyone praises this game and other better games in the series don't get as popular or loved. :(

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