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Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:53 am
by RudeGuy
The punishment is unfair, not the rule.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:22 am
by JupiHornet
It's unfair because good levels don't deserve to lose points and fall 10 or so places below where it should fall.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:45 am
by Kyo
Valtteri wrote:I don't see how -1 is worse than flat out shutting you out of the contest. And I'm certainly not gonna disqualify levels that don't end with a star for example, that would be stupid.
I'd rather participate in the next contest instead of letting my efforts go to waste.

And if you think disqualification is still too harsh, then just PM a reminder to anyone who breaks the rule. If they'd break it in the next contest, they'd get the disqualification. A much more viable solution than dropping the scores and ruining someone's chances if you ask me.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:50 am
by Enjl
While I do understand why you want the .lvl file outside the graphics folder, I don't understand why you want the music file out of there aswell. If a level is built around having "\foldername\mp3name.mp3" inside the custom music box, you're basically breaking part of the experience for said level.
I don't know why anyone would do that, except if they want to avoid dupes. So the definitive mp3 name rule already renders the music part about the new rule useless as there won't be dupes anyway. Even if people use the same track, the name will be less or more descriptive, depending on who made the level the music is assigned to.

To anyone complaining about the harshness of the point deduction: I agree in some way. There should be punishment for disobeying the rules, but there should also be a cap to avoid good levels to fall too low for unfair reasons.
We've got a similar system here in school where exams can lose up to 3 out of 15 points for grammatical errors, being messy, etc. Since we have 10 points to reach I suggest we take everything times 2/3 and end up with a cap of 2 points out of 10. The individual point-subtraction-per-rule-disobeyed can be made via judging how strong the violation was and moved from 0.1-1 accordingly, never crossing the cap. There should also be a notice besides each level's review how many points have been subtracted with the reason for it aswell, because then we can make a list of best levels ignoring these meta point reductions.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:21 pm
by Paper
Guys, if you're having trouble compressing your level files, do this:
1.Select all the files you need in a ZIP/RAR
2.Click "compress and email"
3.Follow instructions and you should be done. You should get two errors doing this, but ignore them, the compression should've worked anyway.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:51 pm
by silent_
PaperPlayerX wrote:Guys, if you're having trouble compressing your level files, do this:
1.Select all the files you need in a ZIP/RAR
2.Click "compress and email"
3.Follow instructions and you should be done. You should get two errors doing this, but ignore them, the compression should've worked anyway.
oh my god thank you

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:51 pm
by Mable
>Valtteri makes good rules about the contest
>>Everyone dislikes them

Can't you people just follow the rules for once? I mean this is the 10th contest now and everytime someone didn't listen to the rules so of course Valtteri is enforcing them harder now.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:54 pm
by SnifitGuy
I agree. Why the hell is it so hard to move some folders around for some people? Is it really that much of a burden. I mean, come on. If you people are going to complain about the f**king rules all the time, don't participate, but don't make the staff team and those who enjoy these contests suffer because of your opinion.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:04 pm
by Kyo
There we go, two more users who fail to understand the definition of criticism.

I respect Valtteri for what he's doing, but that doesn't mean I consider him completely perfect. Of course I'm going to point something out that seems to have a screw missing, and I'm not doing it to make him 'suffer' or anything like that.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:30 pm
by MistakesWereMade
Kyo wrote:There we go, two more users who fail to understand the definition of criticism.

I respect Valtteri for what he's doing, but that doesn't mean I consider him completely perfect. Of course I'm going to point something out that seems to have a screw missing, and I'm not doing it to make him 'suffer' or anything like that.
Don't get me wrong, i am not a fan of valtteri, but really, if it's a rule, it's not hard to follow it. Plus, if you just choose to remove the rule and let users do that, you're slowing down the judging process because you want to have "freedom".

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:58 pm
by Valtteri
Kyo wrote:There we go, two more users who fail to understand the definition of criticism.

I respect Valtteri for what he's doing, but that doesn't mean I consider him completely perfect. Of course I'm going to point something out that seems to have a screw missing, and I'm not doing it to make him 'suffer' or anything like that.
Maybe they don't think I'm perfect, maybe they just don't think there's anything wrong with the rule.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:15 pm
by Sambo
I've got a few levels for my project that I haven't posted screens of yet, and I've never done a level contest before. Sign me up.
(I just PM you the level, right?)

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 7:28 pm
by Valtteri
Sambo wrote:(I just PM you the level, right?)
Yeah.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:31 am
by Blck_Guy
So... What's with the rules?

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:49 am
by MistakesWereMade
Blck_Guy wrote:So... What's with the rules?
people don't want to follow them because of who knows

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:05 am
by Darkonius Mavakar
Halfway done with my contest level.
I must warn you guys that my level is nothing amazing, so no top 10 for me this time, i can guarantee.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:21 am
by zlaker
I can understand why Valtteri made this rule as people has been putting their lvl. files and the mp3. files inside the folder past 3 contests when he has even mentioned in the main thread you're not suppose to do it.
Darkonius Mavakar wrote:Halfway done with my contest level.
I must warn you guys that my level is nothing amazing, so no top 10 for me this time, i can guarantee.
I'm pretty sure you will get into Top 10 again. Heck I can even imagine you getting into Top 5.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:49 am
by Navi
I'll join to see my fate.

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 6:00 am
by ElTipsta
I have just submitted my contest level. Good luck everyone! :)

Re: LC10 New Rule Will -1 Your Score if Broken, Read!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:48 am
by Kyo
Nien wrote:
Blck_Guy wrote:So... What's with the rules?
people don't want to follow them because of who knows
Before talking about something, you should inform yourself adequately or you'll make yourself look like an idiot.