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this thread gaining interest made me take another look at this project, what it was meant to be, and what it currently is.
As you may know, SMB1X has been in development hell for multiple years now. As such, a lot of the levels are also pretty damn old. As a result, they're simply not up to my standards anymore. A lot of them expanded on the original levels by merely adding slopes and graphical gimmicks - only a few of the levels added any gimmicks and if they did they were either bad or underutilized.
I think in order for this to actually be worth playing in its own right it needs to have more of an identity. It should still be based off SMB1, but more loosely compared to what we have now.
Additionally, the LCJ world map has raised the standards for world maps considerably, and I feel a more interconnected world map will help this feel more unique.
Since this means essentially starting from scratch I guess you can consider SMB1X cancelled so rip the meme? Some of the stuff (ie the lua codes for the whole game which are rather recent) will be reused, but the levels and world map will be something new. Once this is in a presentable state I will probably make a new project thread and may even use a different name (although SMB1X is a really good name).
The idea is basically that we take the levels and worlds from the original SMB1 and assign them themes from newer SMB games. The worlds will be as follows:
World 1 - Grass - Mushroom Kingdom Plains World 2 - Beach - Soda Beach World 3 - Snow - Slippy Snow Land World 4 - Desert - Dry Dry Desert World 5 - Forest - Forest of Illusion World 6 - Mountains - Vanilla Mountain World 7 - Clouds - Nimbus Land World 8 - Lava - Vista Hill World 9 - Starworld - Rainbow Road
Minus World - ??? - ???
This should've been obvious just from the fact that I'm working on this, but SMB1X will use LunaLua! The most frequent application will be flagpoles, a WIP gif of which you can see here:
Only things missing are the score and entering the castle after the level is finished. Since a lot of levels were made without LunaLua in mind, it'll mostly be used for the flagpole and a custom HUD, although some gimmicks in SMB1 that weren't in SMBX will also be recreated.
Also, some news on how progression will work:
Up until world 8-4, everything's pretty much like in SMB1, but each world will have an entrance to one level in the Minus World. In each of those levels, you can get a Star (represented by a floating Wiggler head). Those Stars are used to unlock the levels 9-2, 9-3 and 9-4, while 9-1 is accessible after beating 8-4. Additionally, 9-1, 9-2 and 9-3 will also house a Star, leading to 11 stars in total. You need 4 Stars to unlock 9-2, 7 Stars to unlock 9-3 and 11 Stars to unlock 9-4, the final level of this episode.
I hope you're looking forward to SMB1X!
Thanks to everyone who's helped with SMB1X so far!
Last edited by underFlo on Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Spinda wrote:
Also, some news on how progression will work:
Up until world 8-4, everything's pretty much like in SMB1, but each world will have an entrance to one level in the Minus World. In each of those levels, you can get a Star (represented by a floating Wiggler head). Those Stars are used to unlock the levels 9-2, 9-3 and 9-4, while 9-1 is accessible after beating 8-4. Additionally, 9-1, 9-2 and 9-3 will also house a Star, leading to 11 stars in total. You need 4 Stars to unlock 9-2, 7 Stars to unlock 9-3 and 11 Stars to unlock 9-4, the final level of this episode.
Spinda wrote:This should've been obvious just from the fact that I'm working on this, but SMB1X will use LunaLua! The most frequent application will be flagpoles, a WIP gif of which you can see here:
Only things missing are the score and entering the castle after the level is finished. Since a lot of levels were made without LunaLua in mind, it'll mostly be used for the flagpole and a custom HUD, although some gimmicks in SMB1 that weren't in SMBX will also be recreated.
Also, some news on how progression will work:
Up until world 8-4, everything's pretty much like in SMB1, but each world will have an entrance to one level in the Minus World. In each of those levels, you can get a Star (represented by a floating Wiggler head). Those Stars are used to unlock the levels 9-2, 9-3 and 9-4, while 9-1 is accessible after beating 8-4. Additionally, 9-1, 9-2 and 9-3 will also house a Star, leading to 11 stars in total. You need 4 Stars to unlock 9-2, 7 Stars to unlock 9-3 and 11 Stars to unlock 9-4, the final level of this episode.
I hope you're looking forward to SMB1X!
Thanks to everyone who's helped with SMB1X so far!
I think the clinbing a vine animation looks super odd, maybe change it to the SMB3 one (You could make a seperate climbing animation for the flagpoles!)
Also, I don't like the design of the minus world stages at all! They don't look good, and the graphics are really unfitting since this is a SMB1 episode! How about making them glitchy-looking SMB1 styled levels instead (You know, like a castle using the overworld tileset, or a overworld level using the underwater tileset, like the actual minus world!)
Other than that though, this looks very promising so far! I'd be glad to play though this old classic with a new twist! Good luck!
Those levels are something that's definitely subject to change, however, the point of the Minus World is to be strange and unfitting. I'll see how it goes though.
Snessy the duck wrote:I think the clinbing a vine animation looks super odd, maybe change it to the SMB3 one (You could make a seperate climbing animation for the flagpoles!)
Instead of that, I coded it so that when climbing on vines the player is centered:
Snessy the duck wrote:I think the clinbing a vine animation looks super odd, maybe change it to the SMB3 one (You could make a seperate climbing animation for the flagpoles!)
Instead of that, I coded it so that when climbing on vines the player is centered:
Spinda wrote:I've already responded to that suggestion.
Also, I'll probably implement that, too. Wasn't sure if you could do that in SMB1.
Oh, I didn't see that post! Sorry for asking again! Also, I have to report you for double-posting, I'm sorry. Whoops seems like you didn't break any rules anyway! Sorry.
Also, you could turn around on vines in SMB1 (At least in Super Mario Maker!)
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I found out about Smbx for a long time. I always loved it! I'm working on a project too!
Snessy the duck wrote:Also, you could turn around on vines in SMB1 (At least in Super Mario Maker!)
You couldn't, whenever you found a vine and touched it, Mario/Luigi would automatically climb all the way up. Vines were only used as hidden entrances to coin heavens or warp zones so free climbing wasn't needed.
Snessy the duck wrote:Also, you could turn around on vines in SMB1 (At least in Super Mario Maker!)
You couldn't, whenever you found a vine and touched it, Mario/Luigi would automatically climb all the way up. Vines were only used as hidden entrances to coin heavens or warp zones so free climbing wasn't needed.
Well, that's not actually 100% True! When you entered the bonus area, you could actually climb up and down on the fully grown vine if you made contact with it! It was totally pointless, but atleast you could do it! Also, you could do it in SMM, so it technically counts imo!
Great job Spinda! Overall it seems great so far, except for the boss in World 2. Could you make the spring balls have a little bit bigger hitboxes? They're really quite picky and somewhat frustrating
